M_C's story - 11 years of PFS

Just a quick update after a long pause.

Thanks to a recommendation from @John099, I’ve been doing the “DCT for pelvic pain” course for a few months. It hasn’t been a cure for me, but I’ve seen many other benefits:

  • I’m more flexible/injury resistant
  • I’m more “in touch” with my body - there’s a kind of kinesthetic intelligence that is greatly increased. Very cool!
  • 10% stronger erections
  • Slightly longer penis when flaccid

I don’t know if you’d consider these results worthwhile given that it took over 3 months of daily, hard exercise to see any changes. For me, I just wanted to try something new, and since I was in quarantine, I had the time to do it.

I’ve also tried joekools’ hCG protocol (250 iUs, 3x/week), but had to stop three weeks in because I developed shortness of breath and chest tightness. I had high expectations for the protocol, so I was pretty down when I had to stop. My best guess for why I started having chest tightness is that it’s some kind of asthma (asthma symptoms are hormone mediated). Interestingly, I also had asthma symptoms in the first year after I got PFS, when I also had really high LH. Increased LH might have been the body’s attempt to fix the PFS situation, in which case hCG would be the right way to go?

I have a lot of questions about the LH/hCG/asthma situation that I wish I had answers to…

I might restart the protocol with 150 iUs if the chest tightness goes away completely (it hasn’t quite gone away, after a month off hCG).

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Hi @M_C

How are you doing these days?

I read your thread and I see you are still dealing with some gut issues. Out of curiosity, have you considered Fecal MaterialTransplant?

Hi @TFD – not big changes, but here’s an update, in case it helps anyone.

Re: gut issues – My gut hasn’t really been a focus for me. Clearly something is wrong (I rarely feel hunger or satiety – multiple tests show problems with absorption and food breakdown), but it doesn’t really bother me day to day. I went to a really well-known gut naturopath, took more expensive tests, and he didn’t really find any angles to pursue. This is the fifth or sixth time I’ve been investigating the gut, and it’s gotten me nowhere. I’ve tried adding a bunch of microbes, and I’ve tried nuking them all – I haven’t really felt any different either way. I think that’s why I haven’t pursued more drastic measures like FMT. If the gut really was the key to this, I think I would’ve felt at least something.

When the pandemic started, I quit my job to give myself some time to test the hypothesis that job stress might be contributing to PFS. I spent about 10 months taking it really easy – I put zero demands on myself, apart from a daily exercise/meditation routine, healthy eating, and spending time in the sun. Slept as long as I wanted every day. I definitely felt better, put on enough muscle to go up a size in clothes, but I still felt trapped in the “local maxima” of PFS.

In November I got a really bad testicular pain which was diagnosed as a side effect from anal fissures - small wounds in the rectum. I did a 30 day course of a steroid suppository, and the pain went away. I noticed that I had the occasional rush of “positive feelings” in the pelvic area – I don’t know quite how to describe it. Perhaps the steroids were dampening a rampant inflammatory response? The urologist found nothing wrong with my prostate (normal size etc), but the muscles around the prostate were apparently really tight. Testosterone has anti-inflammatory effects, so perhaps various tissues in the pelvic region isn’t using it correctly, and is therefore causing all these random problems?

I caught Covid in January, and I’ve felt more cold, had more fatigue and neuropathy since then. I think I’m over it for the most part, but my hands are now even more dry and cold than they’ve ever been. They also look completely shriveled and wrinkled, as if I’ve taken an hour-long bath. Just another thing to add to the list…

One really positive change I made in the last few months was to start going to bed at 10pm and get up at 7am. I’ve always been a night person, but when I adopted this new schedule I’ve found that it’s easier to get up in the morning and that I need less sleep. So that’s been good.

Staying in the fight - might try hCG at a lower dose soon. Continuing with DCT stretching to get blood flow into the pelvic area.

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I feel like I haven’t had blood flow in the pelvic region for THE longest time

I’m not even sure I remember what it’s like anymore

When you said it’s probably not using testosterone right that’s definitely a bummer. I hope it’s not the case

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I really couldn’t say.

If we consider that FMT can halt the progression of multiple scleroris while that doesn’t seem to be the case with probiotics … probably there’s a difference.

But that’s just a guess.

FMT is something I’m definitely looking into if I don’t get better.

I have other options before (nothing revolutionary) that I want to try, but right after those FMT is definitely on the list.

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@M_C, do you still take B12? Would you say it has lost its effectivness over the years?

Yes, I still take it to maintain the benefits (which plateaued). I find that if I go without B12, 6S-5-MTHF, and water fasting for a period, brain fog come creeping back. It could be that just one of these is responsible for the improvements, I don’t know.

By the way - I think these benefits might be unique to my situation. It could be that the methylation mutation I have (A1298C) makes these supplements help me when they might not help others.

I’m starting to think that a good approach to PFS is to focus on whatever underlying vulnerabilities or injuries/diseases that you had in the past, and try to address those. That might put the body in a position to overcome PFS by itself.

So while I encourage people to find out what their weaknesses are, I’d also donate whatever you can to the foundation and to whatever the PFSnetwork is cooking up.

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Thank you for your answer.

I was diagnosed with several deficiencies (B12, B6, D, iodine, CoQ10, just to name a few), and I don’t know wether to supplement, because I’m scared of sides.

That I’m deficient in B12 is definitely odd, I eat plenty of meat.

I guess this points to a problem in my gut. Something must be preventing me from absorbing it.

EDIT: how often do you fast? Are you still following the 2-3 days method?

I’ve found that 24 hours once a week works pretty well to keep me level-headed.

2-4 day fasts brings me to the “next level” in improvements, but I’m not sure if they last or are cumulative. It’s a really challenging experiment to run…

BTW, I take vit D and the occasional iodine tablet as well.

Interesting. I’ll give it a shot.

Do you fell you benefit from Vit D? How much do you take?

Does fasting help you with sexual sides?

Sorry for the number of questions, but I see some commonalities with my story.

Vitamin D3 - 5000iu. I don’t feel any specific benefits. But after PFS started I tested low for it a few times - supplementing brings it back to normal range.

If you’re worried about side effects, try spending time in the sun instead. That definitely makes me more relaxed.

Yes, but it was mostly noticeable with longer fasts. The ten day fast I did helped with libido, which was encouraging. Not a fun thing to do, though.

I should note that benefits happen AFTER the fast, not during (at that point you’ll feel like shit).

Yes I tested somehow low as well, around 22 with minimum range being 30.

I’m worried about sides in general, not just Vit D, but I’ll try something.

Did it help with erections?

10 days sounds like a lot to endure.

Erections isn’t my main problem, so I don’t know. However, I’ve noticed that endurance exercise helps over time.

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When I first joined this forum, I picked the dumbest username I could think of at the time (MerryChristmas) to give myself extra motivation to improve my health through sheer embarrassment. 11 years later, I can safely say that dumb usernames do not help with PFS - time to move on. Since I’ve started modding, it also make sense to have a less puzzling way to refer to myself.

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Now like ike a 90s rap DJ, groovy!

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I had read some positive stories about BPC-157, so I tried it last year. Unfortunately, It didn’t seem to do anything for me. If anything, I felt a little bit worse.

  1. Name of the therapy/substance: BPC-157
  • Dosage: 500mg
  • How often you took it: 1x/day
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I’ve been using Acetyl-L-carnitine in the hope of improving anhedonia – it’s actually had some mild positive effects on motivation and libido, although the effects were stronger in the beginning.

One worry I have about it is that feel more lethargic when I stop taking it. I don’t know if it’s because my baseline has gotten worse after ALC (some kind of withdrawal?), or if the ‘delta’ from my ‘ALC-state’ is so big that I feel how bad my baseline really is.

I’ve also tried microdosing psilocybin in the hopes that I would be able to snap out of the anhedonia. It certainly gives me more energy and a feeling of alertness when I take it, and it can be a nice thing to take instead of alcohol if I go out with friends. But after two months of regular use, I didn’t see any big changes to anhedonia. No side effects to speak of, though.

  1. Name of the therapy/substance: ALCAR (Acetyl-L-carnitine, ALC)
  • Dosage: 1000mg
  • How often you took it: 1x/day
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  1. Duration of use: 4 months
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  1. Name of the therapy/substance: Psilocybin microdosing
  • Dosage: 100-200mg
  • How often you took it: 3x/week (one day on, two days off)
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  1. Duration of use: 2 months
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People have been asking about opiates, so I’m posting about my experience with them. I took a pretty strong painkiller when I was undergoing cancer treatment in 2015.

It didn’t have any impact on PFS symptoms.

  1. Name of the therapy/substance: oxycodone
  • Dosage: don’t remember
  • How often you took it: 2x/day
  1. Status
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  • Stopped with no lasting change to initial symptoms [ X]
  • Stopped with persistent change to symptoms [ ]
  1. Duration of use: Days [14 ]
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  • Slightly improved [ ]
  • Stayed the same [ X]
  • Slightly worsened [ ]
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  • Greatly improved [ ]
  • Slightly improved [ ]
  • Stayed the same [ X]
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  1. Lasting changes to initial symptoms after cessation (if you have stopped for more than 3 weeks)
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“Pessimism of the intellect, optimism of the will.” -Antonio Gramsci

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