Low body temperature 97.8/ Thyroid Problem?

General Discussion
#1

I have not seen this posted before or maybe I missed it.

I just checked my temperature tonight and checked it 3 times. It came back 97.8 all three times. This is a side effect of low thyroid.

I just got new test results and had my T3 tested and
it came back 1.0 (.9-1.8) range. Someone posted yesterday that they thought it was low.
I know my TSH is already low, which came back 1.61 (0.35-5.50)

For whatever reason dr didnā€™t test T4. He said it wanā€™t reliable when I asked. According to this article below if the TSH and Thyroid are both low this is caused by the Pituitary gland.

The other article listed below. The Pituitary, Adrenal glands and Thyroid all work together. SO itā€™s possible all three are messed up. I wonder if the Pituitary is simply the souce of the problem. This is what many of us have thought from the begining.

When TSH and thyroid hormone levels are both low, the pituitary gland is responsible for the low thyroid function, a situation termed secondary hypothyroidism. Normal blood thyroid hormone and TSH blood levels combined with low functional thyroid activity (as defined by a low basal metabolic rate) suggest cellular hypothyroidism.

The thyroid, the bodyā€™s thermostat, secretes two hormones that regulate body temperature, energy usage, and calorie burning. The thyroid has many effects on all the cells in the body, including the synthesis of RNA protein and consumption of oxygen by cells, affecting overall bodily metabolism. Thyroid function influences and is influenced by the pituitary, adrenals, parathyroid, and sex glands, all of which work together.

iodinesource.com/ThyroidGland.asp
drkaslow.com/html/thyroid.html

#2

You need to get it straight! :smiley:

In the hormone section you posted FT4 at 1.0 and in this thread you post FT3 at 1.0 and says your doc dont think ft4 is of importance.

The thing is they are all important for proper evaluation!

Now wich was it you tested? ft3 or ft4?

#3

Iā€™m not sure if this has any bearing on this particular topic, but my normal body temperature is 97.4, and Iā€™ve known people whoā€™ve had similar temps.

#4

troubledfinuser2,

Youā€™re right, it was FT4 he tested for. My bad. In any event, Iā€™m going to have them test for both FT3 & FT4 next test. I agree they are all important. Everything that I have read indicates you should look at both of these when evaluating thyroid problems.

This has been a problem I have had with every endo I have dealt with so far. They all have some bizare logic that they learned in schooling for endocrinology. Itā€™s like they are incapable of looking at symptoms and using logic.

This Endo doesnā€™t believe in both T3 & T4 are reliable. The last two endoā€™s I went to gave ā€œ0ā€ weight to free Testosterone. Both said it was a inaccurate, yet one of tested for it anyway. If itā€™s inaccurate and you give it no weight, why would you even run a test for it.

Iā€™m going to retest both and continue to look further at my thyroid and adrenals. I believe at least a large part of my problems stems from one or both of these.

#5

If anything T3 is more important than t4 in the body, this is my understanding. However all values are important for evaluation of whats going on.

Push for the tests.

Yeah many endos knows very little anything else than clear cut cases and diabetes. Sad but thats my experience.

I also more and more belive that our problem is adrenal/thyriod related. Im pushing for some more tests then if nothing new is found im trying isocort for a test period.

Gl.

#6

troubledfinuser2,

Iā€™m thinking the same thing, only I donā€™t think Iā€™m going to even wait for the next test. If I find the Isocort from a reliable source Iā€™m going to buy it and give it a try.

Do you have a source for buying the Isocort from? It used to be available from Amazon, but they donā€™t currently have it in stock. Also what about Armour Thyroid would you consider taking that?

The user, ā€œMitchā€ had very good success with both of these products. I had an extremely hard time finding anyone selling the Armour Thyroid.

#7

Hey Boston.

Im not a doctor, hell im not even one of the knowledgable in here.

You have not been confirmed with a low cortisol level have you? I have, both in acth stim test and in 4x saliva and on a single blood test too wich is why my doc ordered the stim test.

I suggest you get an acth stim test and/or the 4xsaliva test before you do anything else.

I would considere using armour if my thyriod was low but both my ft4 and ft3 is high. Infact its over the range high wich could mean the thyriod hormones aint getting to the cells. So in theory i could be hypothyriod even tho labs suggest hyper. Im getting an reverse t3 test and c if that gives me any clues. Could also be that my thyroid sort itself out once i go on isocort. Ill have to wait and c.

Id use amour for a test period if lab had confirmed i was low. Possibly you are but i think you should wait for proper testing and evalution before you start or you will never know what changed etc while on the armour.

I feel the same way, i wanna rush into therapies but there nothing to gain from doing that so i restrainā€¦

My only real concearn about sideffects these days are Indigestion and energylevels and some allergies and the inability to cope with stress. Sex is okay sometimes really good. My mind is clear and i never had any issues with brainfog etc. For me it points to adrenals / thyriod both from a clinical view aswell as from symptoms so i think the isocort and possibly thryiod meds are the next step for me.

Get as many labs as you can and then decide. You will be more confident in your test period with a drug if you know the labs warrents it. You could have the tests in a couple of weeks if you wanted and then another to get results. Its not that far off! Have them done and wait is what i would do in your situation. Isocort n armour will be on the shelf in a month too.

Promise! :smiley:

#8

troubledfinuser2,

Well I have a 2nd test scheduled next week for my adrenals. Iā€™m not sure what the name of it is. The endo dr said They would draw blood, wait an hour draw blood again. Wait 1/2 draw again; then wait one more 1/2 hour draw one more time. He said this is near 100% reliable.

I called my endo dr back by phone and asked why we didnā€™t test for both T3 &T4 he kept giving some bs about both not being reliable together. I kind of gave the guy a piece of my mind. I told him I donā€™t have much confidence in the medical system and none of the endo drs I have dealt with have not been looking at my actual symptoms. Everyone is looking at ranges and saying you are fine. I am tired of dealing with these endo drs. They act like you should just be patient and keep waiting for them to figure it out.

Bottom line, I am going to get this other test done. If he isnā€™t going to do it Iā€™ll get it done from someone else. I was planning on talking to my primary care dr to have him run the test. I just have the feeling he is going to tell me, he wonā€™t know how to read the results.

After the next two blood tests I do next week that will be my 6th & 7th blood tests in 12 months. When I see the results of these last two I will know if it is my adrenals or thyroid.

#9

Yes i have the same experience. Well for me it goes both ways.

If they find something out of range the usually test again till its within range or tell me that the issue isent a problem cause i dont present sympoms of the test in question anyways. Or as you say i have the symptoms but im in range so its not a problem.

The more i learn about hormones and the comlicity i kind of understand them. Its a comlicated freakin system so they better not fuck upā€¦!

Your plan sounds good. Test and test some more and find a plan your confident with. Btw i felt good imidietly after the stress test and felt rubbish later that night.

Hope you find something worth investigating!

Gl!

#10

Thanks, It may be rather sad, but I actually look forward to doing blood tests. It makes me feel as though I could be getting closer to understanding what is causing the poblems in body.

I do take some satisfaction knowing that I am much better than I was 12 months ago, buy I am not close to 100% and will not stop agressively trying to get myself back to myself.

Good luck to you as well.