Think you’ve been hanging around this forum too much with that skewed attitude.
It’s clearly a legitimate recovery.
Hahahaha. I am not questioning the legitimacy of his recovery i am just saying that he recovered within 5 months. There are guys on hair loss forums that experienced the same longer than usual recoveries. Let’s be honest, it’s a whole different ball game once you get past the year mark with no improvement or worsening of symptoms, which is the reality for most users on this forum.
*Most active users, anyway.
It’s not really a different ball game. Some guys recover over more prolonged periods of time too. Theres been several recent reports of eventual recovery lately from guys that had effects for well over the year mark. Would you describe those are “a whole different ball game” too?
There may be subsets within the subset of unfortunate males, but that doesn’t mean cases with a good ending shouldn’t be in the recovery section. Quite the opposite.
I brought two of those guys out of the woodwork, neither ever had all the issues and they generally improved throughout time off the drug - just saying man. What other guys are you speaking of? name some names.
You know what, we need to keep a list of recoveries that aren’t being put in the recoveries section. A thread would do just with a list of usernames and what they did, even if it isn’t a full recovery. Everyone moans about people not coming back to inform us of there condition, this sort of thing would help to keep track.
Believe me, i would love to remain optimistic. I have gotten into many arguments with MartinM and co due to constant negativity, but at the end of the day, for those of us who are still a mess from using finasteride after a year or so of coming off the drug - the reality is very grim indeed. I can tell myself otherwise everyday, but it won’t actually change anything mate.
You might be forgetting that i sent out a stupid amount of PM’s to relatively inactive users and the general feedback was quite saddening. Most with serious issues had just learnt to live with no improvement at all. This forum has got loads of guys that got better within the year mark, the recoveries section would be chockablock if we included them all.
THere’s about 5 probably 6,7 ot 8 threads that belong in the recovery section that never were moved there.
THere’s also guys on hairloss forums as you say who recovered from milder “PFS” over prolonged periods.
As for names, i probably should make a list but it’s out there. If they arent moved to the right sections etc then that’s not my fault.
Chi continues to improve from a good lifestyle and might well be moving towards a decent recovery. Blunted is also doing quite well. There are others on good paths, too.
I feel ive slowly (emphasis on “slowly”) made progress over the course of this year and in am committed to accelerating any improvements.
The AR guys are all guys who havent once put up a thread of a new regime/lifestyle. Even the likes of Awor likes to complain that exercise makes him worse. How about slowly, i repeat slowly, babying the body back into being able to deal with exertion. This could take a systemtic protocol of exercise that increases gently over time. Diet etc, too. I might sound simplistic but the body is built to repair itself and clearly some people have been more fortunate than others.
Irishguy is also feeling rather well. He’s tried TRT and the likes with very limited effect. He’s not taking preg, DHEA and bioidentical testosterone and says his sexual ability has improved 50% and his mental sides have improved 75%. He attributes it most to the bioidential stuff. Check it out.
“clearly some people have been more fortunate than others.”
Exactly. For some, a strict diet and exercise regimen just isn’t going to cut it. You are talking about it as if it’s a cure for everyone. I built up slowly to a month of intense exercise, by mid way through the month i began to feel very good for about 2 days, felt some libido i had not felt in a long time and then i had an intense crash. I now maintain light exercise and a ludicrously healthy diet for a person of my age and yet my symptoms are often worse than ever, especially when i am living particularly healthily. Sometimes i will just go for a jog and it will give me debilitating brain fog and sleep problems. This is before i re took finasteride by the way. So i can completely understand why Awor and others don’t bother with some special exercise regimen. This condition is not about strength and fitness - eating your greens and doing some press ups. I say all this but i am really going for it on the exercise front, i just don’t expect it to heal me.
I have seen/ spoken to all the names you just mentioned, that’s great for them. However, for most it’s not the same story.
Anyway, i am forgetting how this conversation even started - it’s boring as fuck and has been covered on the forum too many times already. Let’s hope we can all recover one day. Personally, at 18 months off with fluctuating symptoms and a general worsening i am not going to sugar coat what’s going on anymore. I am now focused on doing whatever it takes to get better.
Remember the guy who “worked out like an animal for 2 years solid” before recovering?
Who knows eh?
I think working towards something in a straight line is good. Not taking a bit of dexa then a bit of fin, then this then that.
All that said, and i’ll not derail this thread again - i do think if you have stool problems like you shared before that you should look seriously at your GI tract and get a doctor involved in this end of things.
Wouldn’t we all LOVE to work at something in a straight line!? that would be fucking fantastic, but unfortunately it’s not that simple with PFS is it?
If i could go to a doctor, tell him my symptoms and have him prescribe me some medicines so that i was going in a ‘straight line’ i would go to a GP tomorrow. In my opinion, i am doing the best i can in living healthily and experimenting with medicines, trying to imitate other people’s recoveries. If someone asked whether i think i am going to recover using what i am doing/ taking now i would say ‘no’ but what else can i do?
“I think working towards something in a straight line is good. Not taking a bit of dexa then a bit of fin, then this then that.”
I assume that it isn’t a direct criticism to me considering you are doing exactly the same?
I went to a GP about my stool symptoms, he gave me blood tests and a stool examination - nothing was wrong apparently. My stools symptoms go into remission during ‘recovery’ periods and therefore i just assume it’s a symptom of the root cause. People with dodgy hormones, anxiety and a whole host of other problems experience abnormal stool.
Mate, you know what i meant. A few days of T3, pop a few dexa and decide to go back on fin in the same time period. Not sticking to the originally planned dosages. Things like that that you have done is the past isn’t going to recover anyone.
I took 2 weeks of dexa as i always planned then stopped to assess. We have to experiment but we have to do it patiently and rationally.
I’m glad. And yeah maybe you’re right.
Anyway sorry for hijacking your thread No5.
Get this in the recovies also with Tricksters, Dury’s (was it dury or someone else?), 1750’s and the other recent ones.