This is no humour buddy…how can you be “not sure” if your libido is back or not. Its just typical of the way this drug f*cks up our whole perseption of being turned on.
You are not recovered. You may be recovering, but you are certainly not recovered and I wouldnt take anything less as being good enough.
Dude, I was saying maybe I am 99% instead of 100%
not even sure !!
Anyway, as I stated in the recovery section, mine is a “98% recovery”.
I don’t understand your insistance to wave the flag and say “its NO recovery, dude, you are NOT cured AT ALL !!”.
I know that the first times I went here, I was happy to see people who had “only” 70% or 80% recovered, that gave me hope and energy. Even slight improvements were a reason to believe it would be better one day.
If my story can give hope to some people, I’m happy as this is the goal of my intervention.
Hello JG, for me it gives me a lot of hope! I am happy for you that it gets better. 
This would indicate a problem still exists in the Pituitary gland. This is brain of our hormonal and sexual system. The drug fu#ked up our Pituitary gland.
I find it interesting that JG had a very very low iodine reading(could indicate hypothyroidism and vitamin D…>I would be interested in seeing a full thyroid panel on him.
He supplemented himself with Vit. D and Iodine…could of contributed to part of his recovery…
Food for thought…
Sorry to bring bad news.
I hope I would never come back on this thread to say so, but well my condition got worse those last months… For a long time I hesitated to report, hoping it was just a bad period like I always had from time to time even when I was feeling at my best, but now it’s obvious it’s worse than just a bad period…
So I give you the update, sorry, it’s a bit long but I need to relate…
NOVEMBER 2010 : THE FIRST WEIRD EXPERIENCE
I kept on going with my “98% condition” till like October 2010 but the reminiscence of my symptoms (pelvic pain, chest & nipple pain) which always tended to show up once and a while, as I said, were more frequent with time, which was odd… But I was still enjoying the fact to be that healthy after the finasteride mess… I had my girl, I could have sex properly, everyday, felt most of the time full of energy, no mental problem, etc.
In November 2010, I experienced something weird :
As I was not with my girlfriend anymore (I broke up) and was reluctant to masturbate alone, I decided to see how long I could refrain my need. After 10 days I noticed I had a lump in my right breast (I still don’t know if it was it there before or if it was developed due to this period of abstinence) and I began to have some severe chest pain, and also higher back pain.
I was very stressed, I came to the doctor and told him about that. He said me abstinence could not lead to such things. I checked the lump with echography and this was benign. I got relaxed but could not understand what happened.
I resumed every-day masturbation and I came back to normal. That was weird.
DECEMBER 2010 – FEBRUARY 2011 : STATE OF ANXIETY AND PAIN
Well, I say I came back to normal, but not so normal. Between December and February 2011 I remained very anxious. Of course ! I always thought that my condition was only improving since I quit finasteride and mostly since I took tamoxifen. Now I had proof that it was untrue and thus I could expect things to crash back.
So I was very anxious, and thus I had pain which retrospectively I attribute to anxiety and not to Post Finasteride Symptom : I mean chronic higher pain, pain in the aera of heart, awful palpitations.
Two or three times, the pain was so intense and my anxiety was so high, I thought I was about to die. I remind one night at the theatre, I was in the first row, I could not concentrate on the play because I had so strange feelings like I was losing my force, I felt so weak, I felt I was about to die. Finally I did not leave the room and waited till the end.
On that night, I came back home and tried to think rationally. I made some stretching and miracle, I felt 100% the minute after. No more higher back pain, no more anxiety, no more palpitations. This led me to think this episode was definitely due to anxiety.
MARCH APRIL 2011 : BACK TO NORMAL AND RETURN OF THE SAME WEIRD EXPERIENCE
Well after that I lived an incredible month during march 2011 ! I thought that those last weeks were just bad period and anxiety. In March I was 100% and maybe 150% ! Very, very horny, always thinking about girls and pleasant things. Much energy !
At the beginning of April 2011 I had a trip across Europe during two weeks. I was with a friend. I had no possibility to masturbate, and I asked myself if it was dangerous to make the same experience than November 2010. I decided to wait and see. Well, the same thing happened. My right lump, which had almost disappeared, came back and I experienced severe chest pain, after maybe 7 days of abstinence. That was so odd, again.
Back at home in France mid April, I masturbated everyday and I went back 100%, a lot of energy, a lot of libido. I was impressed to be that healthy. I maybe never went so horny since finasteride crash. Unfortenately, I was far from being done with problems.
MID MAY 2011 TILL NOW : CRASH
Mid May 2011, I experience the most terrible crash of my condition since my “recovery” from PFS. One day, around 15th may, as I was masturbating (you may think I spent my time on masturbating lol), my penis was a little painful, I did not pay that much attention. The day after, my was painful again and even numb, like in 2007 right after finasteride. I decided to give a look at it in the bathroom and I was horrified ! The dark veins were back ! I could saw the same dark veins I had just after my finasteride crash !! The day after, I woke up with the pelvic pain and the sensation to be blocked down there. A sensation I absolutely never had since Summer 2008 !!!
I always said I sometimes experienced pain once and a while when I say I was 98%, but it was not the same pain, it dit not interfere with my brain-penis connection.
This time was a clear return of the crash : I was in the same state as post propecia : numbness of penis, painful masturbation, no pleasure to touch, brain-penis disconnection, pelvic pain, glans pain.
I must admit I was a discouraged, I never thought that I would experience those problems again. The odd thing on that period is that I had the sensation to lose less hair than normal. Coincidence?
I thought of what could have provoked that, during the 30 days before this crash :
NEW ATTEMPT ON TAMOXIFEN
So till mid June, I was desperate, I did not know what to do… I said myself, fuck ! I did not take any finasteride this time ! Why does it come back so hard !?
I saw my doctor, we talked about the fact that it was maybe due to stress, or maybe elevetad estradiol ( I had a check and my estradiol was the same level as before tamoxifen in 2007/08,… and finally we contemplate on going back on tamoxifen, since it seemed to work for me three years ago.
But I was a bit reluctant, I mean in 2008 I had everyday severe chest pain, that’s why I was sure I needed tamoxifen. This time was different, I had no chest pain or almost not, and overall I was feeling OK, except the problems down there.
So I took 10mg tamoxifen for 7 days. The first 2 days I must admit that I felt better in the area and I had solid erections when I masturbated.
Then it disappeared and on day 5 I experienced lower back pain, which came higher on day 6 and higher again on day 7.
So I quit tamoxifen because of this strange back pain. I read on the internet that back pain was a side effect of tamoxifen. But fuck, why do I get lower back pain with 7 days on 10 mg, since I took 30mg/day during almost 8 weeks during summer 2008 with absolutely no problem.
[Size=4]MY SITUATION NOW AND THE OBVIOUS PROSTATITIS[/size]
About the back pain, it is also a common symptom of prostatitis. Maybe I fucked with my prostate with tamoxifen this time, which I did not need unlike in 2008, and it makes things worse. Pure guess…
Let’s finish the story. The day I quit tamoxifen was last Sunday (26th of June 2011)
On Monday and Tuesday, I tried to stay calm and made a bilan :
Otherwise size of penis is normal. I can get a hard erection but is painful. Something I noticed this year is that I often go to pee.
All this came back with no intake or finasteride. And I dont think zinc during one month or 3x times Nizoral can bring you back so severly in that shit.
Of course, you consider my problems and you think of prostatitis. That’s obvious, and I must say I’ve always thought of that, even back in november 2007. But the echography showed nothing, and anyway apparently nobody was able to cure it. In 2009 and 2010, after my relief with tamoxifen I was so happy to be in good shape in all areas , I tried not to think anymore about it. But I could feel there was still a problem with it, since the pain would come back once and a while down there.
I came back to the forum and found this topic of solonjk.
I read the 41 pages and I’m now convinced I have to cure it. First I have to make trans rectal ultra sound. I don’t know wether prostatitis is the root of problem or not, but I’ll have to cure it.
Actually my uro-symptoms are more painful than it ever did, even back in 2007 and till august 2008. I never experienced this lower back pain, which frightens me a lot.
J89 was right to warn me I was not cured. But what could I do ? I had seen 20 or 30 doctors and all told me I had nothing, you know the story… Now there is something (TRUS) I never did and this is a promising track, since at last we have a doctor who seems to be a specialist in the field and can treat it.
I hope the TRUS reveal something. I hope not something that bad as prostate cancer.
I’ll keep you in touch. Good Luck to every one.
Ps : Mew, feel free to move my topic in “Member stories”… luckily one day you’ll have to move it back again, who knows…
Something else : yesterday I tried to masturbate, and I just could not reach ejaculation. It was impossible.
Very scary :?
I think it was due to anxiety because I’ve not experienced this the days after
I would start the Cipro after the TRUS. Some of us have benefitted from cipro – whether it’s reducing inflammation or killing bacteria is not clear – but give it a go. Pay attention to any positive changes (less pain, better urine flow, libido, penile size, etc).
Here is the result of my TRUS
the doctor who made the echography found it strange that I had to do it because according to him, the only way to detect prostatitis is to make a rectal examination and check if it is painful or not
he found :
here is the picture of the TRUS :
if it does not work, here is the link : http://imageshack.us/f/695/photo003bx.jpg/
during those last weeks, the pain was more above the prostate (just above the pubis) and was an obstacle between brain-penis pathway
I cut down alcohol 5 days ago and since yesterday pelvic pain decreased , thankfuly
the odd thing is that I feel now pain “under” my prostate, less above, and have more connection brain penis
I don’t know if it is realistic to say so
but I read many times that Dexamethasone can worsen infection
“If you have (or have recently been exposed to people with) any type of infection, including tuberculosis or viral (chickenpox, measles), fungal, or parasitic infections. Dexamethasone can suppress the immune system, which could lead to an increased risk of infection or make infections worse”
http://www.cancer.org/Treatment/TreatmentsandSideEffects/GuidetoCancerDrugs/dexamethasone
Isn’t it something else than a coincidence that my prostatitis symptoms came back along I took those pills ?
It is just an hypothesis, and anyway I will never know what really happened…
If it is the case, I guess I just must thank the doctor who prescribed it to me…
About my appointment with the urologist yesterday :
Diagnosis
No doubt about the prostatitis. He saw inflammation everywhere in my prostate & my bladder. He also saw calcification in the prostate, which means the mark of an old inflammation (which means i’ve had it for a long time I guess)
Treatment
during 1 month : Bactrim, Bi-profenid, Ixprim (Tramadol), Mecir (Tamsulosin) and Mopral (Omeprazole)
I believe in the fact that massages are necessary in order to get rid of ALL bacteries. So I asked him about it and he told me I could do this by myslef. I don’t feel confident in me operating this kind of massages, not at all…
Have you tried the brocoli treatment? Try it for a month (without spices and alcohol), it may give some relief.
I really dont think Bactrim alone would do anything… I took it for 7 days a year ago and it kind of made things worse while on it… Very strange, can’t really explain it…
I’ve tried it a few times with not much results
JG - What tests did he perform to make this diagnosis?
BadLuck - he saw this by making a trans rectal ultra sound
Any news here?
Avocados have a substance that can also block 5ar.
