Is the PFS Foundation BS?

[mcibofh]

Something simple like Adrenal Fatigue… Wouldn’t that be nice.

@gham

There’s a test in the Adrenal Fatigue book, which allows you to self-diagnose yourself with adrenal fatigue. I have severe adrenal fatigue. There’s a question test, and then three physical tests for adrenal fatigue in the book.

I was reading up on Dr. Wilson, who wrote the book. He seems like he would be a good guy to get on our PFS Foundation team. He seems very knowledgeable about adrenals and is willing to look beyond modern conventional medicine, which is necessary to address PFS I think. He has 3 doctorate degrees, so he’s well qualified:
adrenalfatigue.org/who-is-dr-wilson

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@mcibofh

Something simple like Adrenal Fatigue… Wouldn’t that be nice.

@gham

There’s a test in the Adrenal Fatigue book, which allows you to self-diagnose yourself with adrenal fatigue. I have severe adrenal fatigue. There’s a question test, and then three physical tests for adrenal fatigue in the book.

I was reading up on Dr. Wilson, who wrote the book. He seems like he would be a good guy to get on our PFS Foundation team. He seems very knowledgeable about adrenals and is willing to look beyond modern conventional medicine, which is necessary to address PFS I think. He has 3 doctorate degrees, so he’s well qualified:
adrenalfatigue.org/who-is-dr-wilson

These kinds of post really show that many people are still in denial.

Recent studies have shown that the issue might be AR overexpression leading to abnormal responses to androgens.

[THETIGERSHULL]

@bizzbee333

It’s for people who want to gamble with pumping very dangerous hormones into their bodies and perhaps a variety of other strong drugs too. Get it?

Who the fuck said this site had a monopoly on this problem? He’s free to start whatever thread he wants on his own and bring along whoever the fuck he wants from anywhere he wants. What the fuck do you care?

@THETIGERSHULL

@JustQuitDut

To the OP of this thread, join SOLVEPFS.COM, that way you can join the community in trying to find a solution and studying this condition while we simultaneously support the PFS foundation. You won’t feel so helpless, we are discussing some very interesting new drugs and potential treatments, you are welcome there.

JQD, why duplicate Mews effort here by forming a new forum with Enden?

I think posts like these, trying to poach members from here to there is bad form and the solutions you are discussing are a pure gamble and very dangerous, pumping your body full of different hormones and a variety of other strong drugs

BizzBee doesn’t change, same old same old!!!

He’s not started a thread he assisted with the creation of new website forum and trying to steal members from here to try and brain wash people into believing he has found the PFS cure with his magnitude of hardcore hormones

[Second_Amendment]

@bizzbee333

It’s for people who want to gamble with pumping very dangerous hormones into their bodies and perhaps a variety of other strong drugs too. Get it?

Who the fuck said this site had a monopoly on this problem? He’s free to start whatever thread he wants on his own and bring along whoever the fuck he wants from anywhere he wants. What the fuck do you care?

@THETIGERSHULL

@JustQuitDut

To the OP of this thread, join SOLVEPFS.COM, that way you can join the community in trying to find a solution and studying this condition while we simultaneously support the PFS foundation. You won’t feel so helpless, we are discussing some very interesting new drugs and potential treatments, you are welcome there.

JQD, why duplicate Mews effort here by forming a new forum with Enden?

I think posts like these, trying to poach members from here to there is bad form and the solutions you are discussing are a pure gamble and very dangerous, pumping your body full of different hormones and a variety of other strong drugs

Saying the F word doesn’t make you tough.

[gham]

But I agree. I think adrenal fatigue is a symptom of our bodies overusing our adrenal glands to fight off the real problem that we have. Whatever that may be.

Also, with all due respect to propeciahelp.com, I can understand JQDs initiative to start up a new forum due to the loss of the Theories area. When I read threads from people like droit, I think we were making some real significant progress in research. Even if it is a grassroots effort. It was just one more leg of the stool that was propping up the PFS community, in addition to the professional research that the PFS Foundation is doing. I think we need as many legs in the stool as possible to make progress in solving our condition.

There are some really advanced members on the propeciahelp forum, who have researched many scientific articles, and could hold a respectable conversation with professional researchers who hold degrees from accredited institutions. Instead of having these two communities conduct work in isolation, why not open up the discussion between the grassroots initiative and the professional researchers. Create a synergy rather than a competition?

I think the PFS Foundation would benefit immensely with an open, friendly half-day to full-day forum with some of the more advanced members of our site, like droit, and others. I’m sure the PFS suffers would be willing to contribute for the researcher’s time and breakfast and lunch. I will chip in towards the event. People who can’t meet in person could attend the meeting via Cisco meeting place, or something along those lines. We would need to have a moderator to make sure that the conversation stays positive and on track, with respect held towards all members. I would like this to be a fun event had by all, in an open, positive environment, where we can freely discuss ideas without the fear of being ridiculed, ect.

This would be a great way for us to meet the PFS Foundation researchers, and discuss their current studies, and whatever else may be up for discussion.

What do you guys think about a one-day PFS Foundation Open Forum get together? I think it would be a fun and enlightening event.

If it works out well in 2015, maybe we could make it an annual event.

If it sounds like a good idea, maybe we can pass the hat around, and raise some funds via paypal.

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@THETIGERSHULL

@Finatruth

Regardless, you are welcome to argue with me until you feel better, but I wouldn’t waste those 5-6 years

Ha ha, I’m past arguing now Fina, can’t be bothered. You have a certain German companion to argue with nowadays too

I’ve spoke to other guys at the 5 year mark and sexually things have not got that much better for them, BP been one of them

I pray to god your right though and that in another 3 years time I’m nearer back to been my old self again with much better sexual functioning, self confidence and better body composition with muscles returning too?

Your right about my mental status, that has improved quite a bit and I’m off all medication now including my anti depressants. I’m told I now have high blood pressure to contend with and still low testosterone and may need to start TRT in the coming months as well

I read about a guy on another forum who was impotent with zero libido for 9 months. He said he improved very slowly until the 3 year mark and is basically now recovered. I’m wondering how many people screwed themselves by experimenting with treatments. It really sucks for the early guys who were basically guinea pigs for all of the hormonal protocols.

How long do you need to be off the drug to qualify for the studies?

[mcibofh]

90days

[JustQuitDut]

@gham

But I agree. I think adrenal fatigue is a symptom of our bodies overusing our adrenal glands to fight off the real problem that we have. Whatever that may be.

Also, with all due respect to propeciahelp.com, I can understand JQDs initiative to start up a new forum due to the loss of the Theories area. When I read threads from people like droit, I think we were making some real significant progress in research. Even if it is a grassroots effort. It was just one more leg of the stool that was propping up the PFS community, in addition to the professional research that the PFS Foundation is doing. I think we need as many legs in the stool as possible to make progress in solving our condition.

There are some really advanced members on the propeciahelp forum, who have researched many scientific articles, and could hold a respectable conversation with professional researchers who hold degrees from accredited institutions. Instead of having these two communities conduct work in isolation, why not open up the discussion between the grassroots initiative and the professional researchers. Create a synergy rather than a competition?

I think the PFS Foundation would benefit immensely with an open, friendly half-day to full-day forum with some of the more advanced members of our site, like droit, and others. I’m sure the PFS suffers would be willing to contribute for the researcher’s time and breakfast and lunch. I will chip in towards the event. People who can’t meet in person could attend the meeting via Cisco meeting place, or something along those lines. We would need to have a moderator to make sure that the conversation stays positive and on track, with respect held towards all members. I would like this to be a fun event had by all, in an open, positive environment, where we can freely discuss ideas without the fear of being ridiculed, ect.

This would be a great way for us to meet the PFS Foundation researchers, and discuss their current studies, and whatever else may be up for discussion.

What do you guys think about a one-day PFS Foundation Open Forum get together? I think it would be a fun and enlightening event.

If it works out well in 2015, maybe we could make it an annual event.

If it sounds like a good idea, maybe we can pass the hat around, and raise some funds via paypal.

A very good post, yes, SolvePFS.com is where everyone should go to discuss theories, I want the record to state that I (just like all of you) am depending on and hoping for the Harvard Studies. I am doing my own work though, getting new PFS doctors for example, I got Dr Bieley to start a PFS program, studying new protocols. What guys here don’t understand is that some of us have advanced knowledge and experience in these areas, some guys have been dealing with this for years. Had I not experimented on myself, I would not have developed ways of managing this condition so that I could live life. At Solvepfs, personal attacks, ridicule, none of that is allowed, those people will be instantly BANNED. It is a place you can come to discuss theories and protocols to help manage your condition if you cannot wait for a cure or treatment to come. Some of the protocols are very safe, but most importantly, at solvepfs, you will be protected behind the walls of privacy. It is a private forum that is not opened to google or any search engine, with this condition, it is unhealthy to endure bullying online. That occurs here far too often, clearly there are 2 different philosophies on PFS, one is doing nothing while we wait for the studies, the other is doing something while we wait for the studies.

It is working out well, solvepfs is growing, I used to come on PH and feel worse, with all the negativity. Now I go on solvepfs and am happy to read the positive posts, that is how a forum for sickness should be. This forum is filled with so many vicious people who are so miserable that they want to inflict their misery onto others. We all deal with tragedy in our own way, but it does seem that since 2 forums have started, there has been less infighting, though I haven’t been reading here, so I don’t know. Anyroad, please come join solvepfs.com, if anything, you can read some interesting theories and perspectives, and post this there. I am sure we would support such an endeavor, some of us have to do something while we wait for the studies, and for some of us, those protocols are really working.

Hope to see you there, solvepfs.com is not on google as we do not want to compete with the PFS foundation.

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@JustQuitDut

A very good post, yes, SolvePFS.com is where everyone should go to discuss theories, I want the record to state that I (just like all of you) am depending on and hoping for the Harvard Studies. I am doing my own work though, getting new PFS doctors for example, I got Dr Bieley to start a PFS program, studying new protocols. What guys here don’t understand is that some of us have advanced knowledge and experience in these areas, some guys have been dealing with this for years. Had I not experimented on myself, I would not have developed ways of managing this condition so that I could live life. At Solvepfs, personal attacks, ridicule, none of that is allowed, those people will be instantly BANNED. It is a place you can come to discuss theories and protocols to help manage your condition if you cannot wait for a cure or treatment to come. Some of the protocols are very safe, but most importantly, at solvepfs, you will be protected behind the walls of privacy. It is a private forum that is not opened to google or any search engine, with this condition, it is unhealthy to endure bullying online. That occurs here far too often, clearly there are 2 different philosophies on PFS, one is doing nothing while we wait for the studies, the other is doing something while we wait for the studies.

It is working out well, solvepfs is growing, I used to come on PH and feel worse, with all the negativity. Now I go on solvepfs and am happy to read the positive posts, that is how a forum for sickness should be. This forum is filled with so many vicious people who are so miserable that they want to inflict their misery onto others. We all deal with tragedy in our own way, but it does seem that since 2 forums have started, there has been less infighting, though I haven’t been reading here, so I don’t know. Anyroad, please come join solvepfs.com, if anything, you can read some interesting theories and perspectives, and post this there. I am sure we would support such an endeavor, some of us have to do something while we wait for the studies, and for some of us, those protocols are really working.

Hope to see you there, solvepfs.com is not on google as we do not want to compete with the PFS foundation.

So why don’t you fuck off to your theories website and never post here again plugging your bull shit site? All your doing is using this site to promote your own and I’m fed up of it

You say you are depending on the Harvard studies, did you take part in them???

I flew over to Boston (Harvard) from the Uk to take part!!!

[BP7667]

Yeah because its always intelligent to try to solve a problem before even knowing exactly whats causing it.