Have you checked out Dr Crisler’s forum or Meso RX? you should get good help over there.
Tested again this morning and was 35.8 celcius… I did my TSH, FREE T3, FREE T4 and REVERSE T3 blood test yesterday and will have the results in 2 weeks.
I havn’t been this hopefull that I’ve found a big part of my problem in a long time. Though i’m trying not to hold my breath.
I have body temp that cold and all my thyroid tests were normal.
Did you check reverse T3?
BLOOD THYROID TESTS ARE RUBBISH, DONT TRUST THEM OR YOUR DOCTOR< THEY DONT KNOW ENOUGH!!!
Thyroid blood tests will turn out fine for most people unless you are so far gone that you stumble into the office and fall over basically.
The reference ranges are so wide its pathetic. Dr peatfield (the best adrenal and thyroid doc in world) does not rely on these tests. I have been to see him and discussed this with him. this is what he says.
The 24 hour urine panel from genova is more accurate than blood tests, it measures free t3 and t4.
However if you have adrenal issues thyroid will look fine too, thats cos the thyroid hormones pool in the blood making them look ok, once adrenals are supported these levels will drop.
Take blood pressure sitting and then standing, if it drops you have adrenal insufficiency and you best support adrenals first for atleast 4- 8 weeks before beginning to test and look at thyroid. Isocort is good to start with but you may need HC. Slow and steady eliminate one variable at a time and you will find helath comes back, thyroid issues and adrenal issues can cause all sorts of things to go wrong.
Interesting post Muscles.
yes rt3 was tested, it was low normal.
Tim, who interpreted the results?
Could you post the results so we can have a look? There’s a certain ratio that your T3 and RT3 needs to be at. It’s more about the ratio than if one is high or low.
Also I read on Stop the Thyroid Madness that it’s often worth going on T3 to see if it raises your temp and reduces your symptoms. Basically I think they were saying that it’s better to go by your temp and symptoms than it is blood tests. A lot of things can scew your blood tests.
Please go to that website and have a good look or ask some question. If your body temp is that low I strongly suspect you are in fact hypothryoid which is huge in relation to your symptoms.
One last thing, I think you need to use a basal thermometre and under the arm for ten minutes. Maybe try that and see what you get?
My temp was 35.5 this morning. That’s terrible.
Im know that temps are always lower when just out of bed? Takes awhile for metabolism to kick in. Whats your temp when youve been up for an hour or so?
Troubled, you’re meant to take it before you rise out of bed. Anything under 36.5 is stronly suspect of hypothyroid.
I took it this morning and it was 35.1 
I’m now suspecting a faulty thermometre so will get a basal thermometre today and try again tomorrow.
Low cortisol - I think I have this, need to convince the doctor to check me for this. I’m exhausted, have very dry skin, diarrhea like symptoms, peeing a lot.
Does this need looking at first before moving onto the thyroid?
If cortisol levels can be returned to normal does this have any effect on your actual T numbers?
hey here is a tip. im thinking the same thing you are regarding this thyroid thing. i am going to get my reverse t3 and other thyrroid stuff tested tomorrow morning… buuuut, here is a simple way to check your cortisol levels without getting tested. saw it on stop the thyroid madness.
put a flashlight to the side of your eye in a dark room. do it in the bathroom with the light off. in a normal cortisol person’s level, the eye should get smaller and stay smaller. but if you have an issue with cortisol, your eye will start to start big and small and constantly changing sizes. i did this test and my eye is constantly switching sizes.
try it.
There is NO WAY to know one’s hormone status without blood or urine tests. You are deluding yourself and playing a game of guesswork otherwise.
Orrrr… it’s far more likely because the eye is adjusting to the difference in light levels, as it’s supposed to.
Bryce, you have to realize that these types of posts are based on nothing but pseudo-science and only fuel dismissive attitudes towards those on this site as “nutjobs”, the very people you argue against on a daily basis on other sites. You are simply adding fuel to their fire with this type of stuff.
Rather than post about dubious diagnoses, it would be far more helpful to concentrate on getting a bonafide scientific researcher to investigate our issue in a lab and spreading more awareness.
J89, can you please say where you read this? As far as I know, it’s exactly the opposite: low cortisol causes high RT3. Also, having a too high cortisol in the morning usually implies too low cortisol sometime else. The only way to know how cortisol changes throughout the day is with a 4x saliva test.
If you are exhausted, then you most likely have low cortisol. You may want to check it through a saliva 4x test, which is the best way to test your cortisol.
Yes
In normal people, yes. In PFS people, it has a mild effect that does not cure your sex issues at all. Cortisol is a strong downregulator of testosterone, meaning that it opposes it. Males have a few ways to downregulate testosterone: 1) increasing estradiol, 2) increasing SHBG, 3) increasing cortisol 4) decrease testosterone. Estradiol will male you grow tits, SHBG will make your testosterone unavailable, cortisol will give you energy. Therefore, what you want is to downregulate your testosterone with cortisol. Young males have high cortisol, which forces their systems to keep low estradiol and low SHBG because their T is already being downregulated. Aging males, and most of us, are experiencing a severe drop in cortisol, which causes your body to 1) decrease T production, or 2) raise estradiol, or 3) raise SHBG, in order to downregulate T.
So, in theory (ie, in normal aging males), increasing cortisol will lower estradiol and SHBG and may potentially raise T. For PFS people, though, an increase in cortisol usually has a very limited effect on the sex hormones and almost never fixes sex problems. That’s confirmed by the fact that there are plenty of people on this board that have excellent levels of energy but no libido. They all have healthy levels of cortisol (= high cortisol), but bad sex hormones. Nobody really knows why this happens is unknown.
M_81, thanks for the detailed reply. Getting my T’s mixed up. I meant thyroid numbers but what you’ve said interests me too.
Sorry Mew but I’m going to give you guys my two cents on this. Often your thyroid numbers will look fine on paper but you can actually have a significant thyroid problem. Thus taking your basal temp first thing in the morning can be one of the best indicators of thyroid function and is highly valuable in finding out your thyroid status. Some doctors even dose T3 using only body temp and it works. If nothing else it can promp further investigation to reverse T3 etc… as in my case.
Well this is your opinion. My opinion is to go both ways and if shining a light in eyes promps him to go ahead and get a cortisol test then all for the better. Some people don’t have access to saliva testing (refer to old mate above)… Anything is better than sitting on your hands and waiting to be rescued by people we don’t even know are going to help us.
I’m not sure where I read that, I will try and find it again. I do a lot of research so it could have been from a number of sources.
I have high cortisol in the morning and normal cortisol throughout the day. This is very common. I had my 4x saliva test done three times.
The latest on me is that I got a message from my naturapath saying that my Reverse T-3 is high. This is what I was hoping to find.
So now I will most likely go on T-3.