I guess I´ll deal with that once the physical problems have actually healed. Until then Im focussing on recovering and trying to maintain a postive outlook - one step at a time.
Well, for me, because my physical problems were causing my psychological problems (the brain is a physical part of the body) when those physical probelms started getting better, so did my psychological problems. When I’m feeling good, the last thing I dwell on is the problems that I had…
I can see where your coming from with that train of thought, but you have to redirect it else where, otherwise you WILL drive yourself crazy.
Yes, I agree with this, but i think its a bit different when the problems are solely sexual in nature. i usually feel like a lack of desire fro sex and just feel different walking around, like somehow not whole and it is hard not to notice it or think about it.
I have come to expect to feel like this and maybe that is a problem in and of itself but i am missing my edge, some aggressiveness. I force myself to do a lot of things that should come naturally and normally so it remains hard but one needs to keep a positive outlook and not resign themselves to a singular fate. It is very hard though.
I can attest to the fact that when I am more relaxed, not dwelling on things, things come more naturally and more easily. So yeah being fucked up in the mind seriously hurts.
Mikey:
Are you cycling T boosting and E lowering herbs? Are you using a Ball zinger? Are you doing everything you can be doing to get some feeling back? It can be better then it is. But unfortunately we have to do things everyday that normal guys (and us at one time) took for granted. This is just how it is.
I am taking a small dose of clomid daily 12.5mg and will also start with T-boosting herbs. I have Maca and Tribulus from T-nation.com (excellent website and products). My balls/scrotal skin is definitely hanging more/a little lower. Will the zinger help with this?
What are some e-lowering herbs?
Thing is with me i can jerk off and have sex (with small dose Viagra for insurance) but the DESIRE is definitely way lower. I just want to be the horndog I used to be.
The zinger will firm your balls up. Did to mine and many others who use it. Of course, not everything works for everyone, just like some people don’t get neuro effects from fin, just sexual. IMO, neuro-effects are the worst ones and hardest to deal with. Although technically, you do have neuro side effects if your libido is effected. Libido is in the brain, no where else.
Google: Boost your low testosterone, and you will get a site dedicated to helping guys raise their T, naturally.
E lowering herbs: DIM, Chrysin, Avena Sativa and Quercetin. Also, I’m using an awesome product called “Restore” by ALRI. This stuff kicks ass for clearing E and lowering Prolactin. I’m only taking a third of the dose and it’s still working.
that is my point. If we dwell on such things even if our bodies are ready to be normal our minds have already resigned to the way things are and if something is not done, the mind might hinder the progress. I’m in that state. I dwell on this. I think about it every day of my life. I’m worried that if I ever get better I might not notice. Can I even get better with such thoughts?
The way I look at it is hypothetically: my problems caused depression. And depression causes the same problems and if I’m depressed things wont get better. It’s like a vicious circle.
It’s possible. That’s why you have to redirect these thoughts as hard as it might be to an everythings okay mindset, even if it’s not. It’s the opposite of what you’re talking about. You have to break the cycle in your head, and yes, it is vicious. But what good is dwelling on these things? It does absolutely no good whatsoever for your well being.
I can say one thing though, your mind doesn’t cause your dick to shrink to nothing. If you start getting better, you’ll start to feel better too. You won’t think so many negative thoughts and you’ll want to use your dick. This type of thinking is par for the course with these problems. Knowing that is half your mental battle.
I think about my side effects every day, and I’m sure my girlfriend thinks about my side effects every day too. It’s unbelievable the effect this is having on us.
I agree the mental part of this can be making it worse, it is easy to blame it all on the physical problems but I’m sure a negative attitude and depression are not helping anyone.
I had headaches after leaving finas, that was physical. When the headaches stoped other sexual symptoms continued, and I got one new, ANXIETY.
I am pretty sure the anxiety and ED that I have now are related to my obsess of performing well. I have excellent sex with myself watching PORN, I can masturbate myself 4 times easily at day with porn. But when I see my sweet girl…
I want to think my problem is now anxiety to perform well, abuse of porn (des-sensibilization) and condoms, with other partners I didn’t have to use them and was much easy.
I’ll just add to this that I totally agree with this logic.
I can perform each and everytime with my GF, but NEVER on my own! I keep a diary of my progress, with all my thoughts and feelings and by looking in it, I can see back for months I have been fine having sex, but still my mind tells me I am fucked up.
So far, I’ve put this down to that when I am with my GF, she is touching me and I can’t feel myself, so don’t worry. When I am touching myself, I can feel that is not erect, so start to worry - which then kills any chance.
The most ridiculous thing happened to me in January. I somehow managed to relax myself so much, that I was able to have a 20 minute “self love” session 
This then gave me confidence the next day, and I was able to repeat. This happened for 4 days, until on the 4th (just 30 minutes after I finished) - I got it into my head that this is too good to be true, and it’s just the calm before the storm (again) … next day… totally dead.
My diary confirms it’s my mind, but my mind just won’t listen!
hi everybody,
i wish i would have found this forum earlier. but in germany there is absolutely no or a lot less knowledge about the side effects of this drug. the don’t even call it a drug here.
but after quitting taking this drug after 5 years i feel and look like aged about 10 years or more.
my biggest side effect was beeing depressed and acting like a “time bomb” somehow. this is all gone now almost with the day quitting…
another thing is i’m getting almost bald very quickly now, but i don’t give a damn about this. feeling “good” again is much more important to me now than fighting against hair loss…
keep your chin up everybody
Most of the waking day.
Hi,
one more poll.
how often do you think of PFS, when you can rate?
GUY´s I see so many have a look on the poll´s but just a few vote. Why? I want to help you and me and try to work on this shit. The only thing you have to do is to make a lil click, or is that to hard? I need more data. Please help me and yourself!! 
Thanks!!!
Its impossible to put a hard number on it, but pretty much daily. See a girl that you would like to hit on, cant do that cuz I know my dick doesnt work. Want to go hang out at the pool with friends, guess what, I no longer have a 6 pack now I have cellulite on my stomach and slight man tits. Want to go to the gym to feel like a man and begin to look like a man again, cant do that because I feel like death after 10 minutes of intense exercise and have trouble gaining substantial muscle anyways. Want to just go on a vacation to escape, cant do that because I am thousands of dollars in debt from doctor visits and lab costs. Compare all of this to the life I had before PFS and its pretty hard to not think about it and hope that some cruel creator of this universe will find enough sympathy to help us find the cause and a cure…
Its not really something that is just an afterthought if you have it bad enough, it DOMINATES everything in and about your life. I have said that I sadly would trade this for having cancer, at least a type of cancer where you have a 50% chance of survival because at least then you know you will live or die instead perpetually existing in this sub human state.
No offense but this is a silly poll… as if any of us would foget we have small penises now and ED among everything else.
We are sitting in the same boat!!! I do also think of this shit 24h a day! but here are not only people who do it. Why do some of you guys have to discuss everything? Do I hurt you with this question? Does it hurt to click on a button? Dont you think I dont want my old dick back?? No offense to, but what do you think? So where is the Problem? AGAIN! We all are sitting in the same boat and we need to work as a team. If you dont want or think its silly, just let it be, no one forces you. You can try to help or let it be. Thanks!
i even dream about it …
yes me too : (