How I Make My Hair Fall Out -- Am I reactivating DHT? Need Research Help Regarding NO Production

General Discussion
#1

Okay people. So I have made many random posts on here and many people think I’m talking out of my ass, but I think I have found out something close as to what the hell is wrong with us with science reasoning behind it. I have said many times that when I eat only vegetables and meat, that my penis sensitivity returns and my hairs starts to fall out. Well I got lazy on my diet and guess what happened… my hair stopped falling out and my penis started losing sensitivity.

I went back on the “leaky gut” diet only to find that my hair is not falling out anymore and I felt like I went back into place and had to rethink what the hell was wrong with me as it might not be directly “leaky gut”. I looked at some food that I was eating and found that I was eating celery when I hadn’t before. Celery through my research tells me that it helps to stop the production of T -> E. I all ready know that anything that stops this production is bad, this I’m still unsure of, so I cut celery out. I started doing extensive research into nitric oxide as it seemed like the only plausible thing to me as to what was happening and I found out some amazing information. I found out that the diet that I was on was extremely high in both nitrites and nitrates.

Nitrites and nitrates can be the precursor to nitric oxide. As in, the body can use both nitrites and nitrates to produce nitric oxide in the body. Foods I was eating a lot was romaine lettuce mostly, lots of romaine lettuce. Don’t ask me why, but I thought that other veggies like spinach and broccli where causing me more problems and not helping and for some reason I felt I didn’t get a bad reaction from it… I simply thought this was “leaky gut” related and didn’t matter.

So I went to the store and bought a lot of lettuce (lettuce is way high in nitrates/nitrites). I also bought beet juice because it’s one of the foods that highest in nitrites in nitrates. I ate these two things A LOT for about 2 days and guess what… my hair started getting itchy and falling out. I just want to note if I eat other stuff bad stuff besides this, the hair falling out stops. This tells me that this HAS to be related to nitric oxide production.

Now the problem I’m running into here is that since I’m eating foods high in nitrites/nitrates, it’s allowing my body I guess to produce nitric oxide. However, when I don’t do this, my hair stops falling out and I go backwards. So what I’m wondering is that if somewhere in my digestion, my body is somehow unable to produce nitric oxide correctly/blocking it through regular food or nitric oxide is not properly being sent to the penis. I think by eating foods high in nitrites/nitrates, I’m basically skipping over the body’s responsiblity to produce NO through digestive means, and I’m simply putting a ton of nitrites/nitrates into my body which gets turned into NO.

I want to say that this only started happening (my hair falling out) when I started taking a plant based digestive enzyme + the foods high in nitrites/nitrates. So the digestive enzymes in this process tell me that they help greatly. I stopped taking digestive enzymes, but now my hair falls out when I eat foods high in nitrates/nitrites so I’m wondering if maybe I’m moving along the process here of getting better.

The main problem I’m running into is that it’s damn near impossible to find information regarding the exact mechanisms taking place. I found research that said some bacteria or something in the gential tract is responsible for NO production (I would need to find this article, not sure if I can) possibly, I also found information about all the precursors to nitric oxide and what it takes for them to work.

Does anyone know of any doctors that know about this? Does anyone know how NO production completes in the body EXACTLY? Or can anyone help me research this and find the gems that I’m missing?

Also, if I’m producing NO via nitrites/nitrates, do you think I’m reactivating my DHT? I’d say probably yes since hair falling out = high DHT? Could NO be the main problem factor in this?

This is where I’m at and stuck right now… also, PS, please don’t leave a message saying this is bullshit unless you tried something similar to this and tell me your experience with it.

#2

i am still taking proviron and feeling the “old” sensation of scalp tension that possibly related to High sebum DHT.

#3

What exactly are you doing, or what are we interrupting?

To me it just looks like you are filling the forum up with bullshit.

#4

is your hair falling out with this scalp tension?

#5

please please pleassse prove me wrong. please do research into the science i’m talking about and tell me why i’m wrong. because i need help finding answers to these questions. if i’m proven wrong, i can move forward and find the answers in other places. it’s fun and easy and it helps build what’s left of your ego here to make the claim that i’m spreading “bullshit”, but if you look constructively at what i said and tell me why something i’m claiming is wrong in some comprehensible way science related, then i can investigate why what i’m saying is wrong and figure out the exact mechanisms taking place.

#6

I eat lettace 5+ times a week, i grow it. I juice beets 1-2 a week, not because of the increase of nos but because it also increases bile flow, this does not increase my hairloss.

#7

I forgot about that aspect of beets, your right it does stimulate bile. Maybe that plays an important part in this… I remember reading someone took bile acids and had a recovery from it, it’s something I’ve been thinking about doing

the hair loss only started when i began taking plant based digestive enzymes, that’s only when it started. and i was on the leaky gut diet religiously for about 2 months and i had no hair loss at all. other contributing factors that i took were liquid cod liver oil and probiotics with every meal which i think contributed to it. also, i only do veggies + meat (other stuff will block hair loss) with a lot of lettuce and beet juice to make it happen. not sure if you had the same factors or not… but that’s the process i take to make it happen.

#8

Nitric Oxide has been shown in studies to increase blood flow by dilating blood vessels. Increased blood flow could mean better erections and increased loss of hair. So while Nitric Oxide may help you some it may not be at the root of the problem.

If you think it is helping you L-Arginine might be a good thing to supplement as it is the precursor to Nitric Oxide.

Keep looking for solutions, the people who post things like “that’s just bullshit” without providing any type of explanation are part of the problem and ironically are the ones spreading the “bullshit”.

#9

You are obviously new, judging by your body temp thread.

I suggest you use the search button, it will save you alot of time.

And just for the record here are my explainations, based on the actual mechinism of the drug.

Antibodies against Dht, 5ar2 and testosterone

viewtopic.php?f=27&t=5589

And relating the condition to ms, which has been proven that ms patients have an allopregnenolone defficiency.

viewtopic.php?f=27&t=5733

Also be wise and read up about what awor is doing, sounds like he is getting closer.

Oscar also has some interesting theory threads, and dont forget about the finasteride studies section.

Just be aware that bryce thinks that varicole viens are caused by chicken, fish makes your hair fall out and testosterone is aromatased in to dht, not the best member to look up too.

#10

I agree oscar and awor are getting close, but since they have not been practicing anything that has been helping them get better in their practice, what they are saying are theories.

i never said chicken causes varicole veins. i said chicken causes my varicocele to reappear. perhaps you should do a research on the two of them to better understand that i’m not just referring to varicole veins anywhere in my body.

i never said fish makes my hair fall out. since you don’t read anything, try re reading my post above and i said foods high in nitrites and nitrates plus probiotics, fish oil, and digestive enzymes make my hair fall out, when i don’t eat other foods that trigger it to stop.

no offense man, but you should work on what you think is going to get better and i’ll work on what is going to get me better, and hopefully our paths intersect and one of us gets there. i don’t really see the point in you spamming the forums constantly claiming everything is bullshit when i’m using my personal experience, not some theories that haven’t been practiced to prove they aren’t right.

thanks for the words man. yeah, L-Arginine is the precursor to nitric oxide, it’s also really good to have l-cartinine i think it’s called in combination with it. i may try it in the future… it’s just i know i’m getting enough of both of them because i eat enough protein everyday. what i’m thinking is my body is having some digestive issue and nitric oxide is the only thing between everything i’ve tried that has either made me better or worse. like when i take things that studies show decrease it, i get worse, and when i take stuff said to increase it, i get better. i know DHT has a lot to do with ntiric oxide production which means i may just be avoiding the main problem… but who knows… only time will tell…