help!!!

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#1

Help. I need some feedback on this one as I’m a bit worried. Last night I was able to have and maintain an erection to have sex with my wife. Should be good news right. But it was pretty embarrising if I say so myself. Although size was there in length, I had no girth(circumference). The expression a needle in a haystack comes to mind. It could not have been very good for my wife. And I came to the conclusion that I would rather not have sex at all than like this.

But what’s really worrying me is what if permanent damage is being done to penile tissue. My GP wants me to only try Viagra at this point. He thinks Testosterone might wake up the prostate. I see his point but I think if this were any other medical issue you would treat the cause of the problem not just the symptoms. To me Viagra is like a band-aid. Meanwhile I have internal bleeding.

I have had problems for 6 months now and have been off the propecia for the same 6 months. My T and DHT are low. My free T, SHGB, and estradiol are all low normal. As soon as the blood test get here via USmail I will post them. I will be making an appointment with an Endo soon.

Please give me some response to the permanent damage theory. I have followed the thread on T helping damaged tissue in some other part of this forum.

#2

Your gp thinks testosterone might “wake up the prostate” hey?

Whoa best watch out for the big bogie man under the bed!!!

Oh hang on there isn’t a bogie man under the bed and your gp has no iota about what they are talking about. :blush:

Your testosterone is low, replacing it will just put you back into the same position as other men.

As long as testosterone is adequately replaced to levels within that of the norm as opposed to supraphysiological levels then there should be no problem at all.

Most men on TRT have no problem with the prosate whatsoever!!

Perhaps your gp wishes to contact Schering or Ibsen or one of the other pharmaceutical companies to confirm these facts via the adverse reaction listings?

Here you gp can contact Schering (who deal with Androgel called Testogel in Europe)

get-back-on-track.com/en/pro … /index.php

Here they can contact Solvay pharmaceuticals who deal with Androgel in the US

androgel.com/contactus.asp

Perhaps this will convince your gp of the reality of matters;

androgel.com/images/ProfessionalInfo.pdf

Tell him/her to look at page 10 and the adverse reaction list from the clinical trials. Only 5% of patients reported any prostate issue on the highest dose of gel.

Any idiot would also know that given the trial did not look at estrogen levels, that adverse prostate effects would be much lower at this dosage with additional use of aromatase inhibitors where relevant….something now commonplace as part of a TRT program where required.

Even so I hardly think this is the big bogie man that your gp seems to think it is.

#3

grail. di you read about the guys in the success stories section who used testosterone replacement. It seemed to help them. I would guess you would just want to use the minimum amount possible, so you can eventually come off it.

#4

It doesn’t work like that Boston.

You need to be on the appropriate amount of medication whatever that tunrs out to be, not the minimum. Also coming off of TRT does not work in the manner that you are suggesting.

#5

OK Hypo point taken about the T. So I have 1 question then. Do you think the longer we suffer with these symptoms, the harder it will be to recover. That with time permanent damage can occur and we should be proactive and urgent in looking for solutions. Or should we stay calm and wait to give our bodies a chance to recover on their own. If I was to try Androgel for example, then my body may never learn to make T on its own-no? And what would that time frame be that seperates urgency from remaining calm?

#6

I’m going to try an experiment this weekend. I’m going to try the Viagra. If I see improvements then I guess I can conclude I still have it in me if only my hormones would normalize. If i"m the same as my above story then I better start getting nervous.

Hey I would like to hear from some of you on the above. I’m not going to post anymore embarrasing stories if you leave me hanging. Boston have you had any improvements. How would you rate yourself now compared to pre- propecia. With me I got about 75% better 6 weeks post-Propecia and then relapsed.

#7

I think I am progressively getting better. I just think my prostate is still quite irritated though. I’m just trying to forget about it and let it get better on its own. I’ve told my girlfriend I don’t want to have sex for a bit till it gets better. I don’t want to put any pressure.

#8

I don’t think staying calm has anything to do with it, your endocrine system either ends up producing sex hormones correctly or it doesn’t. Some people will recover function due to a normalisation of sex hormones over a period of time and others will not and in those cases people need medical intervention in order to recover health.

There are no hard and fast rules as to how people are effected and how they recover. The actual problems caused seem to differ from person to person.

You give it time and if time is not the healer then you have to have endocrine pathology with a forward thinking andrologist/endocrinologist, ascertain what is wrong and intervene with proven prescribed medical therapy that is carefully watched and evaluated.