HELP ME NOT CRASH! Just stopped Finasteride 1mg today

I do not think I have experienced a crash yet, so I may be violating the rules of the forum. Please help me and do not kick me off the forum. I need advice on how to avoid crashing! Please help me.

I started taking finasteride about 4 months ago, I had some minor reduction in sex drive and maybe a little speech slurring and forgetfulness, I became very emotional and had crying spells and felt a loss of vitality and had intense separation anxiety from my Mom and felt no ‘largeness of heart’ is the only way I can explain it. I also had some joint pain and my complexion appeared slightly yellow or greenish, my face became somewhat sunken and light shadows formed around my eyes. I was also using minoxidil and have discontinued that as well. All my symptoms seem to have disappeared after just 36 hours off the drug. My complexion looks back to normal today, no joint pain, I felt strong and my vitality came back and had no sadness or panic. I feel back to normal. I am terrified I will have a crash and want to take any and all precautions to prevent that. I decided not to wean off finasteride because I read that could cause a yo-yo effect with my hormones and it was best to quit cold turkey. I am taking saw palmetto capsules to substitute the finasteride naturally and wean off of it. Maybe that is a bad idea? Should I crush up a finasteride pill and take a tiny bit tomorrow to wean off the drug? I have also not been masturbating or had any sexual activity as not to send my DHT levels shooting and cause a crash. I am just trying to keep everything every level and easy. What precautions can I take?

  1. Where are you from (country)?
    United States

  2. How did you find this forum (Google search – if so, what search terms? Via link from a forum or website – if so, what page? Other?)
    Google

  3. What is your current age, height, weight?
    24, 6’1, 140lbs

  4. Do you excercise regularly? If so, what type of excercise?
    Dancing, traveling on foot, sit ups, push ups, pull ups

  5. What type of diet do you eat (vegetarian, meat eater, raw, fast-food/organic healthy)?
    Mostly vegetarian, lots of organic, occasionally lean meats like lamb or fish, legumes, grains

  6. Why did you take Finasteride (hair loss, BPH, other)?
    Hair recession

  7. For how long did you take Finasteride (weeks/months/years)?
    4 months or so

  8. How old were you, and WHEN (date) did you start Finasteride?
    24, date uncertain, sometime in May this year

  9. How old were you when you quit, and WHEN (date) did you quit?
    24, today, September 27 2013

  10. How did you quit (cold turkey or taper off)?
    cold turkey, taking lots of saw palmetto capsules to replace the finasteride and plan to wean off gradually the saw palmetto

  11. What type of Finasteride did you use – Propecia, Proscar, Fincar or other generic?
    generic

  12. What dose did you take (eg. 1 mg/day, 1 mg every other day etc.)?
    1mg a day

  13. How long into your use of Finasteride did you notice the onset of side effects?
    A little less interest in sex, very emotional, crying spells, skin complexion unhealthy, shadows around eyes, loss of vitality, separation anxiety

  14. What side effects did you experience while on the drug that have yet to resolve since discontinuation?
    None yet. I feel my vitality coming back after just 36 hours off the finasteride

Put an X beside all that apply: (While on finasteride in my case)

Sexual
[X] Loss of Libido / Sex Drive
[ ] Erectile Dysfunction
[ ] Complete Impotence
[ ] Loss of Morning Erections
[ ] Loss of Spontaneous Erections
[ ] Loss of Nocturnal Erections
[ ] Watery Ejaculate
[ ] Reduced Ejaculate
[ ] Inability to Ejaculate / Orgasm
[ ] Reduced Sperm Count / Motility

Mental
[ ] Emotional Blunting / Emotionally Flat
[ ] Difficulty Focusing / Concentrating
[ ] Confusion
[X] Memory Loss / Forgetfullness
[X] Stumbling over Words / Losing Train of Thought
[X] Slurring of Speech
[ ] Lack of Motivation / Feeling Passive / Complacency
[X] Extreme Anxiety / Panic Attacks
[X] Severe Depression / Melancholy
[ ] Suicidal Thoughts

Physical
[X] Penile Tissue Changes (narrowing, shrinkage, wrinkled)
[ ] Penis curvature / rotation on axis
[ ] Testicular Pain
[ ] Testicular Shrinkage / Loss of Fullness
[X] Genital numbness / sensitivity decrease
[ ] Weight Gain
[ ] Gynecomastia (male breasts)
[ ] Muscle Wastage
[ ] Muscle Weakness
[X] Joint Pain
[X] Dry / Dark Circles under eyes

Misc
[ ] Prostate pain
[ ] Persistent Fatigue / Exhaustion
[ ] Stomach Pains / Digestion Problems
[ ] Constipation / “Poo Pellets”
[ ] Vision - Acuity Decrease / Blurriness
[ ] Increased hair loss
[ ] Frequent urination
[ ] Lowered body temperature

[ ] Other (please explain)

  1. What (if any) treatments have you undertaken to recover from your side effects since discontinuation of the drug?

  2. If you have pre or post-Finasteride bloodtests, what hormonal changes have you encountered since discontinuing the drug (pls post your test results in the “Blood Tests” section and link to them in your post)?

  3. Anything not listed in the above questions you’d like to share about your experience with Finasteride?

  4. Tell us your story, in your own words, about your Finasteride usage and side effects experienced while on/off the drug.

Report your symptoms and history of finasteride use to your doctor.
Follow any advice they give to you, such as going for any tests, continuing finasteride, weaning off etc.

If I was in your situation, i would avoid finasteride and saw palmetto though.

Stay away from this forum unless your problems persist.
Reading other peoples problems isn’t going to help you, but if you are still not feeling good then definitely come back and post.

Avoid alcohol and caffeine for the next few weeks/months.

Avoid rigorous/intensive exercise - light exercise only.

Avoid excessive masturbation, say once every 3 or 4 days.

Avoid watching porn.

Try to find a pasttime that helps you relax. It could be something simple like meditation, a relaxing bath, walk in the park, spending extra time with family etc

Finally, try to a good nights rest. This will give your body the best chance to repair and heal itself.

Hope this helps

This is a very good question if I was in your situation this is exactly what I would do okay Propecia raised your testosterone by 20% that’s what it does so now you’re not providing 20% of testosterone to the body so if your estrogen levels were high 20% to match the 20% higher testosterone then when you dropped Propecia which is going to drop your testosterone your estrogen is still high by 20% I think that’s why were having the crash issues

SOLUTION MAYBE

I WOULD GET A NATURAL TESTOSTERONE BOOSTER AND USE THAT FOR THE NEXT SIX MONTHS EITHER ON A DAILY BASIS OR A SEMI-DAILY BASIS AND THEN START WEANING OFF OF THE NATURAL TESTOSTERONE SUPPLEMENT THAT SAUL PALMETTO STUFF GET RID OF THAT THAT’S NO GOOD EITHER

TONGKAT ALI
HORNY GOAT WEED
T FORCE
HOT PLANTS FOR HIM

TRY TO BUY ALL FOUR OF THESE AND MIX THEM UP

REMEMBER AS YOU NEED THEM THAT DOESN’T MEAN TAKE HIM EVERY DAY AS YOU SEE YOUR BODY GETTING WEAKER TAKE ONE OF THESE KEEP THE TESTOSTERONE HI

YOU HAVE TO START RUNNING RUN 2 MILES 3 MILES A DAY OR RUN INTEL YOU CAN’T RUN ANYMORE

WARNING WARNING WARNING WARNING DO NOT TAKE

DO NOT TAKE ANY ANTIESTROGEN PILLS

FUJI GREEK
STAYING IN NEEDLE
DIM

LOOK AT EVERY INGREDIENT OF WHATEVER PRODUCT YOU’RE GOING TO TAKE IF IT SAYS THIS OR IS A ESTROGEN STABILIZER DO NOT TAKE THAT PRODUCT
IF YOU TAKE ANY AT ANTIESTROGEN PRODUCT A LOT OF THE MEMBERS HAVE HAD THEIR PENIS SHRUNK TO HALF THE SIZE AND AS WELL AS THEIR TESTICLES SHRUNK TO HALF THE SIZE IT RECOVERS BACK TO ITS NORMAL SIZE WHEN YOU ADD NATURAL TESTOSTERONE BACK INTO THE BODY
DO NOT TAKE ANY KIND OF BODYBUILDING SUPPLEMENTS SUCH AS PRIMORDIAL PERFORMANCE PRODUCTS THOSE PRODUCTS WILL SHUT DOWN YOUR TESTICLES ANYTHING THAT HAS TO DO WITH ADDING TESTOSTERONE TO THE BODY IF IT’S NOT NATURAL WHAT IT DOES IS A SHUTS THE TEST GOES DOWN AND PROVIDES TESTOSTERONE TO THE BODY THROUGH THE PRODUCT YOU’RE TAKING THIS IS NOT WHAT YOU NEED

SIGNS OF CRASHING

GIRLS OR GIRLFRIEND ARE NOT INTERESTING ANYMORE
BODY HAIR STARTS SHEDDING
TESTICLE AND PENIS COLD
NO MENTAL DRIVE
DON’T GIVE A SHIT WALK AROUND LIKE A ZOMBIE
FORGET THINGS
WORD SEARCHING
HAIR STARTS GROWING ON YOUR HEAD HAIR LOSS GOES AWAY
HAIR ON YOUR BODY GETS THINNER EASY TO PULL OUT
LOWER LEGS AND LOWER ARMS MUSCLE WASTING YOU START LOSING MUSCLE MASS
NO POWER IN YOUR FINGERS TO GRIP
STOMACH HANGS DOWN LIKE YOU DRINK 24 PACK ALL YOUR LIFE
DARK SPOTS UNDER EYES LIKE YOU HAVE NOT GONE TO SLEEP FOR 1 MILLION YEARS
NAILS GET THINNER
SKIN GETS THINNER EASY TO INJURE

BASICALLY YOU TURN INTO A LADY BUT WAS A DICK AND BALLS IT’S REALLY NOT A DICK IT’S MORE LIKE A PECKER

HOPEFULLY YOU DON’T GET THE CRASH BUT IF YOU DO GO TO THE DOCTOR THAT PRESCRIBED THOSE PILLS AND TELL HIM PLEASE DON’T PRESCRIBE THESE PILLS TO ANYBODY ANYMORE YOU FUCKING IDIOT

THEN HAVE HIM FEEL YOUR COLD LAMEP PECKER AS WELL AS YOUR TESTICLES

IF YOU DO NOT GET A CRASH IN THE NEXT FOUR MONTHS YOU WILL BE HOPEFULLY CLEAR WHY ACTUALLY SIX MONTHS BECAUSE I CRASHED AFTER FOUR MONTHS THEN AFTER THAT DON’T TOUCH THAT PILL AGAIN BECAUSE THE SECOND TIME PEOPLE HAVE CRASHED RIGHT AWAY IN TWO WEEKS THEY HAVE CRASHED

NOW IF YOU DO CRASH YOU WILL GET BETTER BECAUSE YOU ARE YOUNG AND MIGHT TAKE YOU SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 2 TO 7 YEARS THOUGH THAT IS THE STATISTIC OF THIS POISON
:cry:

Good luck I hope you you don’t crash and I wish you the best

Report your symptoms and history of finasteride use to your doctor.
Follow any advice they give to you, such as going for any tests, continuing finasteride, weaning off etc.

Before you follow what the doctor says please let us know so we can give you advice or search this form because those doctors they don’t know shit they do not know shit all day no is to keep on giving you more pills and pills and pills and pills that’s all they know how to fucking do fucking idiots

And if you do go and see a doctor please see a foreign doctor like specially somebody from India or Arab no white or Chinese doctors both of those guys they don’t know shit about The Libido or how to have good fucking sex

And stay away from soy is no good for the body turns into you into a ladyman

I spoke with a doctor and they said I could crush up the pill and try weaning off the finasteride by taking a little less every day over the course of two weeks. The problem is I looked at a chart that shows .2 mg of finasteride inhibits DHT by 60% and .1 mg of finasteride inhibits DHT by 10%.

Chart:
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If I wanted to wean off I would need to take about .12 mg of finasteride to inhibit DHT by 40%. Since the pills are so small the difference of .02 mg are literally grains of white powder and I have no way of accurately measuring the stuff. Should I try to divide the stuff as precisely as I can and try weaning off over the next two weeks? Or just not touch the stuff anymore? Thank you manhood for your advice on testosterone. I am picking up some natural topical cream today. This is just a guess but it seems that since finasteride dries up DHT in the body and going off it would cause a surge of DHT, maybe the endocrine system crashes in response to a DHT overload? So maybe I should try to keep testosterone levels up and DHT levels low and slowly introduce DHT back into the body? One thing I thought of is to apply natural progesterone cream, since it elevates testosterone and lowers DHT and estrogen. Is that an alright idea? Or could that increase my chances of a crash? Thank you guys so much for you help.

I would not take one more pill if I was you I don’t care what the damn doctor say I won’t take any anymore maybe you’re okay now maybe you’re not going to crash but what if you take a little bit more and then now you are going to crash it’s not worth the chance

Just take it easy don’t touch the stuff if you’re going to crash you’re just going to crash after that you’re just gonna have to fix yourself you’re younger than most guys he or so you’ll be okay it’s the ones that are 38 40 42 that really have to worry about it because their bodies are not as strong as yours is going to be in the future

One thing that is helping me out a lot is running I’m talking about not super fast running but just jogging to where I cannot jog anymore just to war I’m about to fall down it really helping me out I feel a lot stronger the next day and the day after

Do not set a round and wait for your body to crash you need to exercise and exercise as much as you can on a daily basis for the next probably eight months I would say to be on the safe side.

Manhood I don’t understand your recommendation, most of those affected by PFS take something to boost their low Testosterone. But if you do that then you need to regulate your estrogen too because of aromatization process that converts androgen into estrogen. Do you think I should ditch Arimidex, Avocado, DIM, Myomin, Nettles Herb, Wild Oat Seed, etc.
Please let me know your view…

This is the issue with antiestrogen pills in my case and others when you take a anti-estrogen pill the next day your balls shrink as well as your penis it turns into about half the size of what they are when you are on the crash so basically this is why I do not take any more antiestrogen pills the way I come back estrogen in the body is by running and exercising as well as lifting weights this helps to get your new natural testosterone up in the body and it will help so your body won’t be so antiestrogen dominant

SUFFERS AS YOU READ THIS PLEASE TAKE NOTES OKAY YOU NEED TO DO SOME KIND OF EXERCISE MINIMUM EVERY HALF AN HOUR WHETHER IT’S RUNNING DOING PUSH-UPS OR JUST WAVING YOUR HANDS IN THE AIR JUST SOMETHING TO RAISE THE TESTOSTERONE INTO BODY EVERY HALF AN HOUR EVERY 20 MINUTES WHATEVER HE MIGHT BE BUT ON A DAILY AND HOURLY BASIS HALF AN HOURLY BASIS THIS HAS TO BE DONE I THINK TESTOSTERONE GOOD TESTOSTERONE IN THE BODY WILL HELP TO REPAIR SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT WE HAVE BUT YOU NEEDS TO BE PROVIDED BY US THE ONLY WAY WE CAN PROVIDE IT IS BY RUNNING LIFTING WEIGHTS PUSH-UPS SOMETHING HARD EVEN DIGGING A HOLE WITH A SHOVEL HELPS

I recommed not eating fast carbohydrates, as they have worsened my crashes. Agree with the previous advices that is is important to avoid having sex.

Propecia increase testosterone by 20% in the body you have to get a natural testosterone booster increase your testosterone in the body on a daily basis or as needed to avoid crashing your body you will be some what normal in your body will start repairing itself you do not need to take antiestrogen pills as this will set your body backwards harder than the crash

TODAY I’M AT 50% RECOVERY IN ONE YEAR I TAKE TESTOSTERONE BOOSTER ON A DAILY BASIS BUT I KNOW WHAT’S HAPPENING IN MY BODY I’M AT 50% SIX MONTHS MORE I’LL BE OUT 100% GUARANTEE

I ended up crashing a month later. My penis became rubber, total impotence initially, premature ejaculation, numb penis, no morning wood, no sex drive, impossible to stay hard for sex, ball hair turning white, pot belly, muscle wasting, tinnitus after two months, bald patches on ankles, small muscle spasms, ultra dry hands and feet, suicidal depression, terror, madness, panic attacks, convulsions, prostate pain, ball tingling, cognitive impairment, apathy.

My testosterone fell to 140 and my estradiol was low. I researched everything clomid, nolvadex, toremephine, and I chose triptorelin. I ordered pharmecuticle grade triptorelin brand Decapeptyl from an overseas pharamacy. I injected it and a month later my testosterone came up to 1050 and has stayed that way for four months. My estradiol is perfect at 24. However my symptoms only slightly improved.

I then started taking pharmaceutical grade tribulus in large quantities. After the first two weeks I woke up with a rock hard erection. Now I can get an erection much easier and the numbness is gone. The panic attacks have gone and the tinnitus and muscle spasms remain but are much less. I notice if I take the tribulus for more then a week I start to feel an odd apathy towards sex. I read tribulus can cause persistant low libido. I have always stopped the tribulus after two weeks and the sexual apathy feeling went away.

The way things are going I think I might be cured before the end of the summer God willing. If anyone has low testosterone I can strongly recommend triptorelin. I can also not recommend tribulus strongly enough. f you take tribulus be careful to stop after a week or two because it can induce a weird disease apparently in some men who take it for long periods. I will comment on any changes that happen.