Dr. Irwig's Publication Out - Thoughts?

[nyer]

Kazman- I couldn’t agree more and that’s exactly what happened to me. It took about 8-9 years for me to make the connection to Propecia, and another year before I finally REALLY admitted it to myself and joined this board. At first it was ignorance and just not tying it all together, and then it was denial since it is just so daunting- esp. if you peruse this board…

[martinM]

@kazman

Look at the “bounce” effect, where things return to normal for a few weeks, followed by the crash - how many men get fooled by this and then attribute the problem to some other possible medical connection? Think they’d run into a typical doctor that will think to test all the hormones I listed? How many of them walked out with a script for Viagra, can then still sort of function, but get no joy and not much of an orgasm from sex? They get put on anti-depressents. Only the smart, determined ones, and those with the funds to do so, will drill down to root cause.

How many men are too shy or embarassed, even in the Viagra age, to talk to their doctor about having no libido, or difficulty concentrating? I certainly was.

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@kazman

It’s a funny side story, but I still check in with one of these earlier docs. Last year he told me M–rk’s drug reps stopped pushing Proscar and Propecia about 4 or 5 years ago - no more free samples, no more mention of it during discussions. He thought it odd as the patents had not run out yet.

This is an excellent point. When I first got my prescription the doctor gave me a bunch of coupons for rebates. Shortly after, about this timeframe, the coupons and rebates stopped coming and the price doubled from $1 to $2 dollars a day.

[boston332]

Also the commercials for Propecia stopped a few years ago. They ran one calling DHT this “pesky little molecule that causes mens hair to fall out.” I remember seeing that and drawing the conclusion they wanted us to draw, that DHT just caused hair loss and had no other function. Hell, I had no idea what an androgen was at that time. Hope the attornies run that commercial during the class action suits.