Did you crash with PFS after just a few doses?

General Discussion
#1

If so, can you list your age and degree of receding/thinning hair?

In other words, are you kicking yourself because you really weren’t going that bald and now you’re in a PFS state from just 1 or 2 doses?

In skyping with a few young PFSers recently, I’m struck by how much damn hair y’all have. And I wonder what your DHT levels were to begin with. I cannot believe how/why a doctor prescribed fin to you. Wondering if there is some correlation here.

Why did it take you a few doses to get hit, and me 9 years for the knockout blow? (Granted, in retrospect, I could see little signs here and there).

Thanks

#2

Propecia is billed as a preventative measure keep the hair you have. The earlier you begin, the more hair you save - that is/was the message.

#3

Honestly it makes no difference, there’s no pattern. I have loads of hair, had sides throughout but only crashed after quitting maybe the fourth or fifth time. As martinm says it was marketed mainly as a preventative measure against further hair loss, to maximise profits I suppose. From my years of being around here and the hairloss world I would say the majority of guys are ‘norwood 2’ or less.

#4

Yea. When I told my friend my situation, his response was that I dont look like im even balding. Just receding. 9 pills. And ironically I now have stopped growing it and keep it as short and clean cut as possible. I was such i little girl about my freaking hair. Shouldve manned up and crew cut it to begin with. Ive lost my health over this crap. 23 is too damn young.

#5

I didn’t have my DHT levels checked before taking finasteride, only testosterone. I was told at the time “It shouldn’t matter, you’ll be fine” “DHT doesn’t serve much purpose it’s a bad hormone which makes your hair fall out”. 2 doses 21 years old. but fuck load of symptoms. But managed to fix most of them.

#6

Yea…I have done alot to better my health as im sure many people here do… Its all a person can do. Im just saying its a shame young guys are being given this stuff bc some dermatologist convinces them that they need it. MPB isnt a condition, its nature. And they are giving life destroying pills to young men to alter a natural process. On my better days my energy seems to be turned to anger and i have to pray about this.

#7

Yeah. It’s easy to go wow, how stupid was I to take this. Whats your hormones looking like?

#8

Still waiting on my 2nd blood test results. My testosterone was low after crashing like 288 (260-1100).

#9

Yes xhornog and scaredoutofmymind!! Take a look at my theory I posted when you get a chance. It is ironic that this is surfacing now, I believe the reason we have our hair is the whole reason we are in this mess!!

#10

It’s intresting i’d really like to know if anyone has there DHT levels before taking propecia and why we where screwed only from a couple of dosages. My thoughts are if someone naturally has low DHT and takes propecia, they are going to get screwed especially if they take things like prohormones/steroids etc and decide to take propecia for there hairloss. My reasoning for taking it was minor recession on the hairline, my dads hairline scared me, so I jumped on the opportunity to prevent it. So many things to think about.

Anyone here have there DHT levels tested prior who got messed up after a couple of small doses?

#11

Xhorndog- I also took it 9 years without any “real” problems. However I did have symptoms now looking back. The symptoms seemed to start near my end of usage when I may have missed a dose here and there. I guess I was sort of unintentionally weening off. My symptoms looking back were rapid deterioration of my teeth and gums, some bloating and difficulty loosing weight around the midsection, and some hearing issues including sudden neural hearing loss (which came back 2 days later and shocked my ENT) and Eustachian tube dysfunction. But I also had incredbible energy and my libido was out of control. Perhaps our DHT levels were not as low as others and it took time to get the right imbalance.

#12

when you missed Dose your DHT tried to come back, and now it foreign object to the body so body attacked it.

#13

Eh?

#14

propeciashiz
My brother is a doctor. My sister_in_law’s son is a doctor too( very fresh and research oriented). My brother gives Testosterone injections himself to patients. I have discussed our problem many times to them and they don’t agree our problem is only hormonal.I gave them numbers and symptoms. My brother said at this level we should not feel that bad and even people with very low T almost zero don’t feel like us.
Give me a single example where this issue has been treated with hormones in 12 years. I have used Agel myself. Give me a single name of any one who has been treated by drs Shippen or Chrysler. What is the explaination of some one using for 10 years with no problem and then one day all of a sudden he got issues. there is guy over here who used many many years got off for pregnancy and restarted fin after six months and he got sides. why people keep gettiing sides years after stopping. I gave exmple of vasectomised males. they get autoimmune although antibodies attack their sperms but their LH and FSH also drop. why? no body knows.Why some of us are having high CRP, why low grade fever( many times my temp is around 100F although my hands and feet are cold) why some having high anti bodies.

#15

It all starts with the supression of DHT…
The fact that i took treatment and felt 100x better says alot. I’m going to repeat the cycle till my levels are adequate. My balls dropped back down, i’m growing facial hair again, hairloss has increased, errections increased.

I’m not here to cause an argument. I just think lots of assumptions are made. People say there is a lack of androgen action, give me some proof and I may believe it. But i certainly felt better increasing androgens. I’m still left with a heap of sides. But after two dosages I don’t see how your anti-bodies would attack DHT. Proof? I doubt it. When women want to become men, there bodys dont start fighting off estrogen when they decrease it. Or else people would get screwed by taking aromatize inhbitors etc.

Sorry if I ranted.

#16

yes there are thousand who are screwed up after taking Adex. I posted on the forum few weeks back. Many many are crying after taking Adex .
cancercompass.com/message-bo … 2763,4.htm
breastcancercare.org.uk/comm … n-arimidex.

and if you think it is to women only then you should go on Messo and allthingsmale and you will find many males who got sides from Adex.there is good example user Chemman.

#17

Didn’t say the drug doesn’t have side effects. I mean’t that there anti-bodies don’t take estrogen when it comes back as you claim that happens to our dht…