agreed!
kenneth frazier should be sentenced to life in prison, along with all of his minions!
who knows, it could happen 
DOWN GOES FRAZIER, DOWN GOES FRAZIER !!!
Hey, if anyone can help me with a question I have not got a clear response to, it would be much appreciated!
My question is that if everyone got blood, hormone, semen analysis before using fin, what exactly would that do? Would it give Doc’s a better understanding of PFS? What would be the point of getting these tests done prior. I hear a lot of people who use it saying you should, but I am not so clear as to why.
Thanks
So that you’ll have a baseline and know what your levels were before using Finasteride, should things go wrong while on or after stopping and your hormones get all screwed up. Having a baseline to compare against could provide treatment ideas based on your previously normal/healthy hormone values.
That said, if you are still considering using the drug, please post on hair loss sites.
OK thank you very much my friend.
dan26, as Mew pointed out it would only give you a baseline so that you can compare before, during, and after finasteride use. There are no tests or studies which indicate who is more inclined to be effecting by these side effects. The issue of persistent side effects is growing and growing and gaining more media attention. What does that mean? It means, more and more men like myself who ONLY have side effects upon discontinuation of the drug (I took it 9 years) are comming foward and looking for answers. If you lived one day in any of our lives post-finasteride use, you probably would never ever ever ever ever even mention the word finasteride or propecia again.
Literally you are gambling with your life. Hope you arent as hard headed as i was. There are much worse things that can happen to you than going bald. If you get stuck with PFS youll just learn that the hard way.
Why taking propecia? I have a simpler solution for you.
Just cut your balls off. 100% success in stopping hairloss, promise.
I’m just concerned that you’re maybe still considering it despite your initial post being at the end of July. You really have been given a get out of jail free card here i.e. someone who is aware of what could happen whilst still not having touched the drug. Everyone on here would love to be in your position. Please don’t throw this lifeline away. As others have said, even if you don’t experience side effects whilst on the drug, a lot of people on here didn’t experience much whilst on the drug, only to experience major sides once off it. You really don’t know how it could mess with you, and even if there are no obvious sides whilst on propecia, that doesn’t automatically mean that you haven’t been compromised. And as you should know from this site, there isn’t a quick fix.
Not true after puberty. Before it, sure, but then there wouldn’t be any reason to even consider Propecia anyway as the hair wouldn’t be lost.
Hey guys, I know I am not really one of you, but I just wanted to share a few quick things.
I’ve been losing my hair for about a year, probably longer I just didn’t realize it. When it started getting noticeable to me I hit all the forums and tried to learn as much as I can before making a move. I’ve been researching a lot over the past 4-5 months and STILL haven’t done a thing to stop my hair loss, until now. I came to the conclusion that taking this stuff just isn’t a good idea, especially for someone my age (20). I was all ready to take it, had blood/hormone/sperm tests set up, was planning on a very low dose, but I couldn’t pull the trigger! I think a little bit of DHT reduction is actually healthy in terms of prostate health and longevity, but I feel anyone who is ‘happy’ or ‘content’ with the decision to be on such a drug is either delusional or does not understand the human body. I think the ONLY way I could ever bring myself to take this is if 1) it was my absolute only option and 2) I had FULL comprehensive blood/hormone/sperm tests before (baselines) as well as periodically while on the treatment. My doc was clueless and I had to argue with him for half an hour to even get some of the tests I did, which were not enough. I put it off long enough to the point where I finally discovered other more safer ways I can attempt to treat my hair loss, and if they are unsuccessful, move on. In closing, I just want to thank Mew who was kind enough to answer my questions and give me the means to educate and empower myself on this medication and my own personal health. Also anyone else who put a thoughtful response on this thread I appreciate it. You contributed to stopping me from taking this, and who knows what would have happened if I ended up on it. I been on all sorts of hair loss forums, spoke to a few different docs, and I’m sorry to say but they really don’t take your condition seriously and are very dismissive about it. They think it is all ‘fear mongering’ and attempts to get class action lawsuit’s. I admire the fact you are trying to push this message and it is very important your voice is heard. I sincerely wish all of you the best in fighting this affliction! STAY STRONG!
- Dan
dan,
any chance these “docs” were dermatologists, or just hair loss schmucks in general?
cause personally, i do not give a flying fuck what they think about anything
i am glad you decided not to fuck up your body over shedding a few hairs, i only wish i had known what could truly happen
I saw a doctor who specializes in hair loss AKA a dermatologist, and a general practitioner. I guess the point is people who have no education about the drug are going to be misinformed. All the derm told me was ‘‘there is a very small amount of evidence that if you use propecia and were to get prostate cancer later in life it may be of a more aggressive form’’. The GP literally told me ‘‘there are no serious health risks involved in finasteride at such a small dose ie 1mg. The studies you read may have referred to the higher 5mg dose’’. This just made me shake my head. I knew a lot of doctors were tools, but this is no joke and should be taken seriously.
Dan, don’t do it. 9 years nada…2 days after last pill complete destruction. This is starting to leak out in just the 7 months I have been affected. ABC, NBC, CBS, etc other news stations warnings, FDA upping their warnings in April, conference on neurosteroids effects in February, declining propecia sales, increase in law suits, it’s all comming out now…as we speak
Everyone should take some!! Join our hell party!! U wouldnt want to lose anymore hair! You know how society hates on bald guys! Now they have a pill that theyve convinced us we need to take for our “disease” of hairloss. Any girl who loves you will surely only love you if u have thick hair. Nevermind your pecker not working. Figure that out later. Just save the hair for now. 
) so glad i took propecia! I have hair again!! my body doesnt function right, but i dont care if my life is now miserable! Atleast my hair has thickened up! Yay PROPECIA!!!
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My god this^^ Cannot be repeated enough.
This thread was made almost exactly when I decided to start taking Fin. I wish I had come across it. I researched the drug so much before I took it, I still can’t figure out how I missed this site. I guess I wasn’t looking for it. I look at my hair in the mirror now and it looks fine. I had no reason to take that poison. What the fuck was I thinking. I lost everything, for nothing.
I know what you mean man, but dont beat yourself up. We all believed this would be just like taking an aspirin (and we had no reason to believe otherwise, as most of us have had a safe experience in the past taking prescription meds). Think about other aspects of life you can develop and try to use this awful experience to become a better person. We are here for you.
Don’t even consider using it, I took only 3 pills and I have no sex drive at all, can’t get a boner, I’m not a man anymore.
dan,
if you take fin at a smaller dose all it will do is give you the side effects at a slower rate. what happened to me is exactly what happened to everyone else but sooner, i took 1.25 for 14 days, others took 1mg for three weeks. not sating every case is like this but some i’ve looked up.
i would look up mercks history of company honesty. visoxx was an arthritis medication that killed people with heart attacks. to invent a medication it costs roughly 1 billion, then to make a profit you will need to sell this for as long as they can, catching on? merck was up for 50 billion in lawsuits, they were facing bankruptcy, so mercks ceo (who is bald by the way and if you think this is a great way to not be bald, wouldn’t he not be bald?) vowed to fight every lawsuit individually, these poor people who’s loved ones are now dead trilas were dragged out for longer. mercks final payment was reduced to 4 billion about 25% of their company.
i have just reached as long as i can spend writing this but here are some point forms.
i can’t sleep, i can’t shit, i can’t get an 100% erection, i have very little sperm, an orgasm has no feeling in my brain, headaches are on and off all day, i m TRULY depressed for the first time in my life, i’ve had suicidal thoughts for the first time in my life, my muscular body has become soft and only gets worse, I’m gaining weight, my energy levels are terrible, my breasts and nipples selectively feel sensitive at times, i’ve lost spontaneous, morning and nocturnal erections, i wanted a wife and kids and now i face being single and lonely to death, everyday i wish i could go back, this has been the biggest regret in my life, i feel it has seriously shortened my life span, my balls hurt everyday.
my honest advice - do not ever take anything to prevent baldness, my grandfather is 98 alive and bald at 30, he has 7 kids, and i just fucked up his genetics.
i would give anything to go back and become bald.
What they don’t tell you is its a straight choice between your dick and hair? Guess what, bald guys get pussy impotent guys with hair may not experience such joy