Clomid is very effective at super low dosage of only 12.5 mg. You could use my case as an example. I wouldn’t touch 20 mg of Novladex, it’s a super powerful drug and honestly I think that’s too high of a dose unless you are like permanently shut down.
150% increase in testosterone at a super low dose with clomid for me.
clomid is also a powerful drug, it just, to me anyway, seems to be more risky in terms of it’s effects (eye floaters and gnrh desensitization)
I wouldn’t worry about it being too powerfull either.
At 20mg:
Though toremephine seems to be the best, in that there’s much much less toxicity, it’s just more expensive.
so how long did you use clomid and what was the result? did you maintain that high T-level?
I have seen some chaps used clomid for 2-3 months but T-level got back to either previous level or below pre-clomid level. what is your experience?
I honestly think if we can use nolva at lower doses 2 - 5 mg for 6 to 12 months we can get some benefits but I don’t have any example or study to support my idea. I also do not know what would be impact on our livers though I read Nolva can be used safely for 5 yrears.
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After 2 months of Clomid (25 mg every 5 days), I’m pretty sure that my testicles have got a lot smaller than before Clomid. Shouldn’t it be the opposite? Note that my T increased from 440 to well over 900.
are you taking 25mg EVERY DAY or 5x a week?
Your test is on the high side and your estrogen is probably high too if your not taking arimidex to lower it.
Your nuts could be in overdrive and casuing your testicles to shrink up.
My E is actually 27.5 (10-42)
wow. yes u r telling the opposite. people say their balls become bigger like overies of women who take clomid. From ur other post u have to take clomid upto Sep, 2010. I am looking for some concrete example not study (I don’t believe any study now.In studies fin or SP are not suposed to cause what we r facing now), where any body has recovered. I have seen some exmples where few months of stopping clomid , T has gone back to it’s pre-clomid level.
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Hi Anonn1
what has been ur exp with clomid? how long ago u used clomid? what about ur pre clomid , after clomid T-levels. what are they now? I am trying to collect as much data as possible to reach some concrete conclusion.
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Goes against conventional wisdom, but who cares as long as the test levels went up.
the lower number is 10, maybe 27.5 is too high for you. Maybe you are the kind of the person who naturally have very low Estrogen. Me, my father, my borther are all very lean. Even at the age of 76 my dad is He-man and have no chest at all. I checked my estorgen and it is not hig but I got all the symptoms of high estrogen, like chest came out and got bigger (but no gyno though)and I was very emotional and crying most of the time. I believe my estrogen base line was much lower than what I have now or maybe my b/c E:T ratio has destroyed.
Sorry annon, I haven’t seen your question
Neither. As I wrote, I’m taking 25 mg once every 5 days. In other words I’m taking 25 mg about 6 times a month. (I know, it’s a ridiculously low dosage, but I’m extremely sensitive to it)
Interesting idea… I’m extremely lean too (5’9’’ = 176 cm, 136 lb = 61.8 kg), but, unlike you, I’ve had no specific “high-estrogen side effects” from fin.
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