Chemical Castration?

General Discussion
#1

I have been thinkin recently, that this drug is a form of chemical castraition. Look at what it does to males that take it! But then I had the another thought, if it doesn’t effect all men and for those who it has, some recovered. Is this drug doing somwthing else?

My contention is that it may be a combination of things. For those with depleted hormone levels, it is concievable that it is a form of chemical castration. Now I’m not a scientist and this is no more than me throwing ideas out. But if it is chem cas then is has there been a cure for other forms of castration? If so are people aware of this? Are people trying it?

For those who have seemingly normal hormone levels, I doubt that there has been any form of chem cas. I myself am having blood work done after consulting my GP. My GP raised some interesting points, of which have been raised by prop help docs and members. This point was that the hormones aren’t the problem, it’s the receptors. He mentioned a study that saw diabetics with in range insulin levels but poor receptors.

#2

KSM, you aren’t raising a new theory here by any stretch.

Some people on this board believe there is a problem with the receptors insofar as they have become insensitive to androgens. That is, partial androgen insensitivity or even androgen resistance (AR).

There is some research currently ongoing on this very topic. See awor’s thread.

It is a difficult theory though. Such problems are usually genetic i.e. people are born with them. Acquired AR is pretty much unprecedented which is who most doctors or endocrinologists will think you’re crazy for even raising the subject. I spoke with Professor Bouloux about this and he himself found it a very difficult theory to reconcile.

#3

Dr. Shippen has told me personally he believes this is a possible problem. He suggest taking super high doses of injectable testosterone like Ethaniate, along with small doses of HCG, for the purpose being to “wake up” the receptors. I never tried it because I was afraid it might cause more damage, but I have not ruled it out completely. He also said Dr. Crisler has had patients who have gotten good results with this type of treatment.

#4

i have taken 250 mg testosterone 2 times 3 weeks apart and hcg 200 for i think 4 times 10 days apart recently, not bad results but i think all the merit is of the testosterone, i think hcg did nothing or maybe worsened the situation. What do you mean by small doses of hcg and why small doses? Of course 200 u.l. is not a small dose, what could happen with such a high dosage?

#5

Permanent desensitization of testicular leydig cells to LH.

#6

I already have desensitezed leydig cells, what you thought when reading my post has already happened. Previous usage of 2000 hcg shut down my own testosterone production. I’m taking it again because i think i need a strong stimulus to try to keep my desensitezed testicles as “alive” as possible when i’m on testosterone syringes. I mean my testicles doesn’t work normally, just imagine with 250 mg testosterone brought from outside. Does it make sense?