This thread isn’t meant to be pessimistic, I’m just wondering whether anyone can vouch for any of the recoveries posted on the site? I mean does anyone personally know of someone recovering (sexual sides more than anything - ED, libido, shrinkage, etc.) on their own over a certain period of time? Has there been research that suggests this is a possibility? Some of the recoveries sound believable, but recoveries don’t seem to pop up very frequently. I guess I want to believe that most of the posts aren’t bogus, and that maybe things can sort themselves out naturally, but it’d help if I had a good reason to believe it. I apologize if I’m posting the equivalent of an old thread.
Not at all.Time does not help at all. Indeed me and many got worse over time.Sorry but i don’t like giving people false hopes.
I have seen both on this site, some feel better after time and some feel worse… however, it does seem that the sexual sides are the ones that linger the most as opposed to mental etc., the bottom line is that it is different for every single person, and no one experience of another user has the definitive answer to your question
I disagree that EVERYONE gets worse over time. For me, time has helped with certain symptoms while others have remained static.
For example, in my case anxiety and depression lifted within a few weeks of stopping drug (no more neurosteroid inhibition), brain fog began to clear to a manageable level 1-2 years after quitting, and REM sleep has returned 2+ years off drug. Semen volume has also improved somewhat.
The sexual side effects seem to be the more difficult ones to treat. While obtaining erections has gotten somewhat better, I still have difficulty maintaining them and have lost size (length, girth) and suffer from penile/scrotal shrinkage and numbness. Also, still no morning/nocturnal/spontaneous erections and loss of libido is still present. Nonetheless, it is better compared to when I first quit 6+ years ago, when I was completely impotent for awhile. Muscle atrophy in arms and legs is still present but muscle twitching has died down to a manageable level.
As the body, nerves and tissues can take a long time to heal from the damage Finasteride can inflict, progress seems to occur in small steps over long periods of time. Those have been my observations. Nontheless am still dealing with many devastating symptoms and am a changed man compared to how I was pre-Finasteride.
How long ago did you stop propecia?
i would like to give more hope to donkeyboy but everything is unpredictable
some were hitted hard but recovered a bit some from the beginning, others the opposite
there was a month that i felt really recovered but didn’t last.
girth is recovered a bit and this last
Mew if you got better then you are lucky one and if you are not taking any meds or vitamin then for sure it is the real improvement other wise it is not… I have been writing here about my improvement with the help of Vitanin D3. Yes I did improve a little bit , got some muscles improved my weight ( moved from 140 lbs to 150 lbs) but as soon as I decreased my dosage, I came down like a rock to 140lbs+. All my symptoms joint pain, muscle loss, heac ache , osteoporosis etc came back. So vitamin D3 for me or for some other sufferers some other band aid is the blanket which covers up their symptoms.
I would be interested and will hold hopes if some one without using any meds or vitamins having constant upward improvement.
One year off my sleep has inproved, anxiety, depression and muscle twitching have been reduced considerably thou it took me 8-9 months off to see that improve. Sexual sides are just as bad and even more pain in my scrotum and testicles which have shrunk as well as reduced flacid penis size. I am not taking anything at this time. I didn’t have much muscle wastage or any real body changes besides the sexual ones.
so did you use some thing? what and for how long?
if not taking any thing now? how long ago you stopped every thing?
I stop taking using any type of medication/supplement around mid July 2011, and didn’t see much improvement in anything for another 2-3 months.
Before that and during the first 7 months I tried numerous medications, and supplements to try to fix this. Obviously nothing really helped fix things 100% but I do think that the low dose T3 did helped with adjusting my way high cortisol lvls which helped with anxiety and stress and seems to have helped with morning erections thou I cant 100% confirm this.
By no means do I recommend anyone else try this without medical supervision thou as playing with one hormone to fix other hormones can turn dangerous if done incorrectly.