I am just wondering is there any possibility that chest fat or gyno can cause low TT production or LH to go down. Prior to Agel my chest was flat but Androgel cused a little bit fat deposition in my chest. Is there any theory or study that points towards in this direction. This is very littler fat and not visible but I want to go back in old self if possible.
Id say no it cant but then again nothing is impossible. The only way it could do that is if you have a high e2 becuase of excess conversion from fat but alittle on the chest really aint gonna do much difference.
How long ago did you take the gel?
I got some more bodyfat and yes esp chest fat from gel. Dissapeared within a month after stopping the gel tho. Did not need to take anything for it.
I’m not understanding this… how would DHT gel contribute to e2 and gyno? (Not asking sarcastically) I thought you take DHT gel to get rid of gyno. I understand T drops (ala Dr. Shippen) converting some to e2.
I’ve been going through this downward spiral (maybe this is what you’re describing): Muscle atrophy (particularly upper body) therefore less muscle to burn calories therefore more fat deposits particularly abdominally. With the more fat comes the higher e2. What T you have is fat soluable which further exacerbates the situation.
I took Andro gel not DHT gel May-july (10 weeks) 2009. caused alot of water retension and my chest came out big. after stopping water disappeared in 3-4 months but I feel some fat is left behind.
So the op was taking tgel and not dht gel but if we knew the awnser to your question then we wouldent be here cause thats exactly what happended when things went from normal or bad to worse. We got dht into our systems again.
As I wrote I am watching and reading about FTM transitions. Not a single girl (Tboy) wrote that she needs any thing besides Testosterone injection. Just pure T injection and some of them are a lot more mascular than I am. It makes me jealous and sade what I was and what I have become now.
what remedies have you tried besides supps and hormones? hows your diet?
Ah ok. I assumed “Agel” meant Andractim Gel. Is Andro Gel not DHT gel? It’s T gel?
Androgel. it is T gel. For people who are nautrally low in T it converts to DHT very fast and then they complain about hairloss but for me it converted to Estradiol. I am very happy I stopped it before major harms.
Nothing special only Vit D3, Vit B12 and Folic Acid.
Do yourself a favor and start on a COMPLETELY gluten free diet! You have nothing to loose and possibly your health back to gain!
Cant deny some facts here.
-It was the only thing so far that helped me and others
-It requires nothing but changing your diet
-Its known to cause anxiety
-Its known to cause brainfog
-Its known to cause hypogonadism
-Its known to cause androgen resistence (wich could explain why you are experiencing / feeling only incresed E2 from Tgel).
-Its known to cause muscle atrophy
-Its known to cause neurological damage
-Its known to cause low vitamin and minerals from malabsorbtion issues
-Its known that its very hard to diagnose and very often missed
-Two thirds of ppl affected do not have any gastro / intestinal complaints
-ppl suffered are often hypocondric before diagnosed
Seriously, why everyone hasent tried this on this site baffles me! 3 month of a changed diet to c if this could be part of why we are so misserable isent worth giving up your favorite snack or whateva? Cant believe it really!
thanks a lot. I have already shifted to corn flour and rice, no wheat product. I discovered it long ago.
thanks
sps