Wow!! I can get horribly drunk and/or hungover from small amounts of alcohol post-fin.
I too have this crappy symtomp. Cant even have a glass of wine without feeling like absolut shit in a few hours not to mention the next day. First i thought it was the grapes. Then i learned im the same with beer or any alcohol. So i figured it was the gluten in almost all alcohol beverages. So i started drinking glutenfree beer or cider. Dident make a difference, still felt like shit!
This is one symptom that makes me belive alittle in candida. Just a little tho. I dont know if this makes a difference but do you also suffer from low gut acid (hcl)? Whenever these days when i get some back up my throat (dont happen alot) its not even close to beeing as strong as i remember it. It doesent even feel all that bad for me. B4 i couldent stand that horrible strong acid in my mouth.
Just another weird thing propecia did i guess. Or the low acid levels are due to low cortisol, who knows…
I went through the whole low stomach acid check, etc. Didn’t help. A few ideas as to why these substances affect us more:
-the liver/kidney is simply worn out and unable to process this out of our bodies
-we don’t secrete the proper enzymes to break these substances down or we break them down into something highly toxic
-adrenals are worn out
-our metabolism system starting with the thyroid is weak and cannot handle the stimulant or extra work
I’m interested to hear in other theories. This is obviously one of the areas that really sucks about post fin…
Theory: Of compensation.
The obliteration of Type 2 5AR results in compensation by Type 1 5AR (which increases it’s activity). When finasteride is stopped, the body remains in this ‘compensated’ state, possibly due to epigentic changes.
In a way, our bodies have done well in evolutionary terms; they have compensated for a lack of one enzyme by increasing activity of it’s most similar/brother enzyme.
Unfortunately this compensation renders us impotent etc.
I believe the thepry of compensation is under investigation by scientists.
Just thought I’d throw this in.
JN
Im not even close to impotent infact my sexual (if i even have any) sides are my least concearns.
My stomach on the other hand…
You say you went through the low hcl phase or whatever. What did you try to increase it? how long etc? Hows your cortisol levels?
Low hcl from what i understand can be a symptom of low cortisol. With low hcl you cant digest proteins properly. Im hoping this is it so my stomach will be okay when i try cortisol treatment.
troubledfinuser2,
exactly what kind of stomach problems are you expeciencing? Do you have a pain in your stomach? Propecia gave me a stomach ulcer. Thankfully, this is now gone. Let me know if you think you have this. I can let you know what you should do to get it resolved.
I had an ulcer too. Or many. In addition, I wasn’t digesting foods at all, and I still have to eat double what I used to and get less energy from it. I meant that I tried HCL tabs and various enzymes and got no positive results from them.
I don’t know what my coritsol levels are now. I’m without insurance and out of the US so no way to test. But my stomach has improved much since first stopping fin and curing the ulcer with proper diet.
Yes i also had what i belive was a stomach ulcer but my main problem is im always constipated. always. Im bloated with gas but cant even fart to get it out for whatever reason.
I comes and goes. Can have a good week but never like prefin. My stool is sometimes thin and or littee balls. Undigested foods sometimes. Then i can have the occasional diareea.
I went through this and sometimes have it too. I believe my problems are rather kidney related though. There can be so many causes. Do you have caffeine regularly? What happens when you don’t have caffeine for a period (2-3 weeks) and then have a tiny amount? Does it feel like your stomach works again for a short while?
Cant live without coffee so i havent been of it for 2-3 weeks ever 
Somtimes coffee gets my bowelmovement started. But when that happens its usually diarea and not a normal bowelmovement. Id say im constantly constipated but when i do go its like its been in there too long so its abit soft and thin. Resembles diareha but i can also feel its not a complete bowelmovement, like there still constipation somewhere in the pipes.
Whenever my stomach is good i feel a 100% normal. If i could only figure the stomach part out.
I know i cant eat gluten, this is a fact.
I think im having trouble digesting other proteins too, but this is only a guess.
I think im having trouble with too much sugars so i only eat low gi diet but still its not good enough
I cant eat peanuts for whatever reason the make me feel like when i have alcohol. Like absolut shit. Prolly have issues digesting them?!..
My thoughts are that my stomach cant digest foods (especiall some types)properly anymore and thats what is causing my fatigue and the constipation leads to bad blood flow down there and in other extremeties aswell.
My sexual issues have more or less dissapeared. I dont have regular morning erection but im not sure i even did back when. I do however have good erection when i want them and im kind of horny again so its not really an issue anymore. However when im badly constipated my libido goes down and i generally feel worse in all ways.
I have same stool (thin, or little balls, or occasional diarrhea). Has anyone ever heard of another explanation for these “little balls”? They are very peculiar, and apparently common among us.
Hypothyroidism can cause constipation.
I actually had these “poo pellets” towards the end of my 11 months on drug. After quitting, they cleared up within a few months. When I got tested 3 months off, my TSH was near hypothyroid levels (4.54, <5.5 even though AACE guidelines now suggest anything above 2.0 is suspect hypothyroidism), and when retested months later it had come down significantly.
In other words, I had a high TSH on/shortly after drug, which coincided with the constipation/pellets. Months after quitting this began to clear up as TSH began to lower.
Don’t know, if I enjoy the beauty of alcohol’s effect on the mind as much, but I still drink a lot for sure.
Yeah i know and it would be great if so cause most docs know how to treat hypothyriod. Unfortunetly my blood tests say if anything im hyperthyriod with too much t4 in blood and to much t3 in urine. tsh usually around 1.7
Now my cortisol is low and we all know theres alot of talk about thyriod not getting in to your cells when cortisol is low but thats just it, its just talk. Its not medically proven as far as ive been able to tell.
Wich leave me hanging abit but im gonna try iso cort and c how i do.
Peanuts and beer are both contain compounds that mimic estrogen in the body. Probably the reason you feel like crap on both of them:
No dont think thats it.
My estrogen is 10 (10-50) so very low and i doubt that estrogen or phytoestrogens would give u ulcer feelings from just a couple of peanuts. Or alcohol same way. Ulcer feelings.
Its not always estrogen you know
I still drink coffee. I think it seems to help me more than hurt me. NOw liquer on the other hand is definitely a problem. I never really associated the sensativity to propecia, but it certainly is possible.
If I have one drink, the following day I feel horrible. I don’t drink at all now, because of this.
This talk of stomach ulcers is very very interesting.
In leaky gut syndrome, anti-inflamatory drugs are well known to cause ulcers but ALSO induce leaky gut, as well as the use of anti-biotics. If finasteride can put a hole in your stomach, then it can also wreck the lining of your intestinal tract which leads to decrease gut permeability. This allows toxins to float willy nilly throught your system which can definately give you the brain fog, the intolerance of alcohol, burden your liver a lot and I would assume, give you sexual side effects.
Throw a bit of candida into the mix and we’ve got some real health issues brewing here. Its interesting because get chronic bloating which i have always put down to high estrogen. Now im so sure its estrogen. I suspect it may be candida and or leaky gut syndrome.
Its like a really intense bloating feeling that wont go away until I fart. It keeps me awake at night when its bad, but it tends to come and go.
The whole not being able to tolerate alcohol and caffeine is also a typical symptom of candida. And candida leads to leaky gut.
Also when I stopped fin, my libido was GONE. Then one day I did a colonic hydrotherapy and the next day my libido was the highest its ever been in my life - and my free T was completly shot at that stage.
i dont drink too much because of this shit either.