Brazilian 4 yrs story after quitting

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#21

Try raw diet for a few months…it has enough proof in here that it cured emotional blunting and most of all…brainfog and fatigue…

#22

Hi everyone,

nothing great to add to my story. In August, i completed 6 years without Propecia (24 years old now) and still struggling with fatigue and joint pain mainly.

Went to some doctors recently and one of them wants to try a treatment against hypothyroidism. As i have nothing to lose, i decided to give it a try for 3 months.

I returned to my workout routine this year and already put 9 kgs in muscles, which is great. My testosterone levels and other indicators, like SHBG are in best numbers than ever, but it doesn’t reflect on my libido, strenght and “masculinity” overall.

#23

Are you still taking antidepressants? If so you should know that depression drugs can cause PFS too dude. They might be making your symptoms worse.

#24

So you presently struggle with the following:

  1. persistent fatique
  2. lack of libido
  3. Reduced number of spontaneous erections
  4. reduced ejaculate
  5. Penile tissue changes
  6. emotional bluntness

Is that accurate?

6 years after discontinuation?

Thanks.

#25

I’m not taking antidepressants anymore. I’m “clean” for more than a year.

@pdvl, i’ll put in parentheses how i feel recovered compared to the first months of post-crash:

  1. persistent fatique (20% <- i have to decrease it compared to the previous evaluations, since it got worse)
  2. lack of libido (40%)
  3. Reduced number of spontaneous erections (not so much, when i have one i almost celebrate)
  4. reduced ejaculate (100%)
  5. Penile tissue changes (100%)
  6. emotional bluntness (30%, still not very emotional. Even with my family)
#26

Update: i have come up with bad gut problems, beside the other problems.

I think i can’t digest food properly. Like everytime i eat, i feel my intestines moving and producing a lot of gases. Sometimes at night i feel pain in my stomach.
Today i am going to a general doctor (don’t know what it’s called in english) to restart all the investigation again.

I also feel that when i eat something more industrialized, i get worse. Also, my poop is coming disform and watery, unlike years ago when it came normal.

#27

Do a stool test. High calprotectin? Dysbiosis in gut? Check for leaky gut and Morbus
Crohn. Best

#28

So… doctors thinking this is autoimmune. I am afraid that it’s anything like spondylitis. Anyway, blood tests for it became negative, but it can be a false negative. Think he’ll ask an MR of my sacroiliac to confirm.

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#29

HI Brazil,

I have the same symptoms like yours. I feel fatique at the morning. The most problem is the joint pain on knees. I went to doctor and took X rays in May. The doctor told me that there was no obvious problem from the X ray photo on my right knee. However, I feel my legs are weak and pain even walk. Then the doctor advised me to inject Hyaluronic acid to my right knee. I felt better after the injection. However, I felt my left knee become more worst after these months. I am very worry whether the pain disappear or not…

#30

Xrays dont show a lot. MRI! Calcification is possible.

#31

Hi noprop, thanks for your response. I considered to take the MRI before…however…it really really costs me a lot…does anyone have the same symptom (joint pain) and took the MRI??? Thanks.

#32

It is somehow incredible that this fucking poison is doing such an harm on people. Hua, I am fucking angry.
I suggest walking a bit every day. I wonder if the liquid there is functioning properly.

#33

So… .turns out that its not autoimmune!
That’s good and at the same time, bad. Still feeling the same things (mainly persistent fatigue and joint pain). I also noticed that i have some problems in sex. I need to take some sort of viagra (i mean, the cheaper one) to perform ok in bed (not that i enjoy having sex like this).

Shit… going back to hormone doctors, but hopeless that someone can help.
7 years…

#34

Hi Brazil,

What kind of joint pain did you suffered (from patella?) Did you take X Ray or MRI on the joints? If you have joint pain for 7 years, I do think that X Ray or MRI can check the status of your knees. Although X Ray cannot check too much, but narrow gap, spurs and bone erosion can be checked through X Ray. If you have enough budget, you may consider to conduct MRI for detail check. Please let us know the results. I am also suffering the joint pain for 1 year.

Thank you!

#35

my fellow brazilian you´re not the first pfs case with IBS symptoms, mine started around the time i used accutane

see this paper i think it was @axolotl who posted: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3483803/

at first i could only eat a carnivore diet anything else i´d run to the bathroom with diarrhea(a-galactoside helps with that, its called digeliv here)

i showed a friend with ankylosing spondylitis the paper above he is too brazilian and one of the most intelligent person i know in this area, he also suspects about the androgen receptor having a play in the hyper-response of T cells in his case

i´d try the pep/prep route like im doing right now, you can get it easily in our country

Regards.

#36

I’m also Brazilian, we could put together a group in wathsap or something of the genre …