Blood tests ok?

[ScaredMale30]

That’s great news.

It really sounds as though you have absolutely nothing to worry about. Maybe Propecia made getting an erection a bit more difficult, that freaked you out (understandably), and you were left with some worry issues that caused continued to cause a problem once you stopped.

There’s certainly no sign of the hormone imbalances and physical changes we have. Your bloodwork is fine. You have high DHT, but you are showing all the signs of responding to that high DHT normally: you have oily skin, your hair is falling out, etc. Everything is as it should be. Probably soon enough your DHT will calm down a bit, and hairloss will slow.

My advice? Count yourself lucky, stay away from finasteride forever, and get on with your life. Most of all, don’t hang out on this forum: you don’t need it. Get out there and have some fun!

[monokuro]

I thought I should update this - in the last month or so my libido has completely gone to pot.

Quite strangly (at least I think so) erections aren’t affected, as in, once my GF gets me going - everything is fine, it’s just the initial push to actually get interested.

Porn doesnt do anything neither do dirty thoughts - so I’m seemingly in a reverse situation to most as I can’t do anything on my own, but need the missus to actually do anything.

I’m reading now through the posts to look for libido helpers, but its a minefield. I also dont have access to any shops, so need to order everything online which is making it quite a bit harder.

Perhaps a bit cheeky, and I am sorry, but could someone give me a smallish list of things I could try and where to buy them?

[monokuro]

I’ll follow up on this now, just so people know where I’m at.

My libido slowly got better, to the point where porn actually became a bit interesting again! Then for no apparent reason, it just died … maximum grr!

My symptoms are now purely low libido and less feeling (so a lot harder for me to cum when having sex). I’ve done loads of reading and the more I find, the more it seems my FSH and LH levels are too low with possibily the e2 too high?

I’m just starting on the Broccoli treatment to see if that can help, but also as a backup plan - am going to try a Clomid/Nolva regime too.

From what I can gather, 10 days of 25mg Clomid ED, then down to 25mg EOD for 6 weeks or so. At the same time, 10mg of Nolva ED. Does that sound about right?

I really hope I don’t have hypogonadism, the things I read about that scare me. Especially as I have no regular access to a GP

[BadLuck]

I have read several articles on CLOMID studies that were referenced by Mew in his posts. One stated that in their study no improvement sexually was noted at the end of 2 months. Another one stated that some improvement was noted at the end of three months. And the third one stated that something like 75% of the study participants showed good to excellant improvement after 4 months. Sorry that I don’t have the time to dig out the links to the 3 studies right now. If you do a search for CLOMID and review the most recent ones by MEW you will find them. Based on your comments I think 8 weeks is too short.

[boston]

@Mew

… with obtaining and maintaining an erection, that should tell you the issue is likely at the penile tissue level. Perhaps consider seeing a urologist to have your penis examined and make sure it is functioning ok. …

Hahaha… Now that is the funniest thing in the world. First of all, problems with erections should tell him his issues are at a “penile tissue level”???, and then a urologist examining his penis to make sure it is functioning ok!!! HAHA, you and I we all know that that would be a total waste of time!

[boston]

Oh btw monokuro,
Dr Crisler recommends a product for preventing hair loss that is safe. You may want to look into it. I think he would probably sell it, or you would have to contact your local apothecary pharmacy with the recipe and see if they can make it for you.

[Mew]

Boston, it’s not funny at all. I notice you also left out the original part of that sentence, which was:

However, since your libido is fine and you are having issues mechanically with obtaining and maintaining an erection, that should tell you the issue is likely at the penile tissue level. Perhaps consider seeing a urologist to have your penis examined and make sure it is functioning ok.

At the time, Monokuro stated his only issues were “getting hard”.

If someone has a completely normal libido, but mechanically cannot obtain an erection, they should have their penis examined for fibrosis, veinous leakage, and get a doppler ultrasound done to evaluate penile hemodynamics and bloodflow. If all turns out normal, then investigate other areas. Urologists specialise in this area, I’m not sure why you think this advice is so funny?

The other thing YOU failed to realize is that post was written BEFORE Monokuro came back to update us and say that his libido has declined significantly – which changes the ballgame completely, as that is a major symptom of the Post-Finasteride Syndrome.

If you had read the entire thread, perhaps you wouldn’t have made such uninformed comments. You seem to be on a mission here to nitpick and stir up drama for no reason – keep it up, my patience is wearing thin.

[monokuro]

Ok chaps, I got so wrapped up in my broccoli treatment thread that I forgot to update here.

Got DHT tested again the other month, with it now being:

2.49nmol/L (Range 0.32-1.64)

Based on my previous test (9th Feb) where is was 3.36nmol/L we can see it is (naturally) coming down.

I’ve just got my whole lot of bloodword redone again so will post those results soon.

But from what we see so far, could it be possible that by the DHT level slowly decreasing, it could mean my body is finally starting to level itself out (especially in ref to the 5AR-2 functioning?)

Also - as posted on the other thread, after around 2 weeks on the broccoli treatment, my libido was completely back - along with super rock erections. It is my understanding that Broccoli just brings down estrogen?

In anycase, I’m going to start the Clomid and Nolva in a few weeks … I’m really hoping I could be cured by Christmas!!!

Any thoughts on this?

[monokuro]

Ok, well to throw a real spanner in the works.

Latest Results 2nd October

Prolactin: 129mu/L (86-324)
LH: 4.5iu/L (1-9) Good, was low before
FSH: 3.0iu/L (1-10) - Slowly increasing
Oestradial: 139pmol/L (28-156)
Testosterone: 33.6nmol/L (9.9-27.8)

They didn’t do the DHT test, which is ironic seeing as that was the main test they wanted (all the others were added after!)

So e2 and T are very much on the rise, up about 40% from last time.

If T had stayed constant, I had intended to try using arimidex instead to just bring down e2, but now it seems everything is still not right.

Question is whether try the clomid now at all … I think this shows my HPTA is not shut down, but by using the clomid to give everything an artificial boost, the logic is my body will then reshuffle everything back to normal when I stop it…?

Oh and the test for Ardiol-G came back as “We cannot do this test in these labs.” … doh!

[monokuro]

Any thoughts … I’ve got this big bag of it sitting in front of me …