Yes I have 100% experienced this. One night a few days into my crash I was woken up by a phone call in the middle of the night, my heart immediately started pounding. It was very strange.
harrisoff has this been an ongoing thing with you or has it just been once in awhile? For me now it seems like the slightest thing startles me.
Yes it has been ongoing this whole time. I noticed two instances of it happening today in fact.
This was happening to me early days. I hope it doesn’t come back. I made it worse by taking anti anxiety meds. Some of the anxiety seemed to be driven by lag in interpretation of sounds. Like a phone ring or knock at the door. Its like I would subconsciously freak out because I didn’t know what the sound was in real time like a normal person should. Its a lot better now… I hope it stays that way. Its life ending walking around with all these fucked up issues.
Low DHT, Low Allopregnanlone, Low T, Low Cortisol, and god knows what else. Its amazing we can process any information at all. Early days I was completely brain dead. They should weaponize this and use it on ISIS.
I actually find it strange that I don’t have increased anxiety. I mean I get stressed about having PFS, but my situational anxiety levels haven’t changed whatsoever.
Good idea, it could also be used to “treat” sexual offenders, making their live hell on earth.
I’m not sure anyone deserves this torture we all go through.
I’m just happy that a number of us are improving over time. The only way is up from here.
guys this is not permanent i am sorry.
Yes, this happens to me quite often. Been off finasteride 5 years and still get that startled feeling (warm/cold feet sensation) over the smallest things, someone talking to me suddenly or loudly, a phone vibrating. Every day when I wake up I feel like this typically. I take GABA, Magnesium, 5-HTP supplements to help with sleep/cognitive issues but still have constant anxiety.
Interesting. I’ve only experienced this when my cortisol level is low, after using glucocorticoid steroids…
yo, i think this is low cortisol/high adrenaline/noradrenaline.
the first 3-4 month post-crash i had this everynight at falling asleep and while sleeping. i would wake up randomnly sweating and my heart beating so fast… it was because of noises that would startle me awake. the problem was those noises were there before for the most part, and i never noticed them.
something wrong in the cortisol-adrenaline, possibly T3 as well…
im having my results this week. woop woop finally…
I noticed this too, occasionally. Never linked it to fin, though. Got any solutions or ideas for this?
Low dose prozac, alpha 2 blockrr…
I will try that
Wierdly enough it’s the opposite for me. I used to be overallly sensitive to stimuli before PFS, now it takes a lot to make me react. Almost feels like there’s no adrenaline response, meaning I have to feign a lot of my reactions.
I have extensive experience with this. In the past it’s gotten so bad that I’ve had periods of time were I’ve felt like an animal being stalked by it’s pray. My senses were heightened, my life felt in immediate danger and I was jumpy.
My experience is that some of us have had damage to our nervous systems. Were in a constant fight or flight mode. Propecia has caused damage/malfunction and our bodies know something is very wrong. Its trying to do its best to help us by warning us and sending signals that we are in danger. Only there is nothing we can do about it so the warning signals keep happening.
I recommend an e book called Understanding Pain, Live Well again. It deals extensively with damage to the nervous system and how to quit and shut down the constant danger signals we are receiving. I could probably even email my copy if someone is interested.
Man there is no nerve damage stop spreading this around.
I had a very severy case of this
Couldnt sleep
I tuned it down with antidperessaantidepressants and benzos.
This is a lack of dopamine and high noradrenaline reaction. Basically: stress like reaction
And how did you recover?
Reading that book
Maybe you should mail it to the researchers to see what they can find
To say I “recovered” is not accurate. Ive never recovered from PFS, I have severe penile atrophy, depression, and hormonal issues.
What I have recovered from though is the side effects of, insomnia, feeling jumpy, constant adrenaline overload, fight or flight response being constantly activated and Tinnitus.
Picture your nervous system as a car alarm. When your body is being damaged or in danger its its job to warn you. Right now it senses that there something wrong so it blaring the alarm to warn us somethings wrong. The problem is were unable to stop the root cause of whats wrong with us so the alarm keeps going off 24/7 with no reprieve. The more that the alarm is activated the more heightened its responses are the more jumpy we get. Its about getting the message to the alarm system that were not in danger. It not a cure for PFS. Alll this is is a tool to quit the alarm system in our bodies that has been activated by having PFS. Does that make sense?
I think the best way to explain it would be to show you some excerpts from the book, it can explain it better then I could in my own words, so Ive copied and pasted and few paragraphs from different places in the book.
"Pain is one of the protective mechanisms of your body.
∙ The pain alarm system is complex, adaptable and always changing.
∙ Typically, the system responds when there is damage to the body and when something
potentially dangerous is happening to the body.
The purpose of pain, just like muscle spasms, sneezing
or vomiting, is to protect you. The pain alarm system is able to
adapt and learn. It is a complex and sophisticated system
that responds when your brain decides something is really
dangerous and that you need to respond.
You have three main parts of your nervous system as well as an autonomic nervous system. Each part of the system
works with the others. All of these parts working together allow your body to react automatically. They also allow you
to decide how to act and react, to feel things happening inside and outside your body, and to think.
Many of the automatic responses of the nervous system are involved when pain persists. The spinal cord can change
the messages heading to the brain, and the brain can decide all by itself what you will feel and how your body will react.
The more you understand how this relates to you, the better you will know how to recover.
When you feel pain your brain and body are changing in many ways. The changes are all part of your automatic
protective mechanisms. When pain persists, these automatic reactions can become more reactive, and by
themselves they can start to make your pain worsen. With practice, you can learn to gain some control over these
automatic reactions, such as fight/flight reactions. This will help break the vicious cycle of pain and lead to less
pain, and better quality of life.
When pain persists, you now have two problems: the original one that caused the initial pain and a hypersensitive
nervous system. This can lead to more intense pain, pain that spreads to new areas and even a distorted
image of the painful body area. A hypersensitive nervous system can make it so that normal movements and even
normal touch on your skin – things that are not at all dangerous to your body – are experienced as extremely
painful/dangerous. Anything your nervous system has learned can be changed.
Finding the right things to do, and practicing them over and over, is the key to making your nervous system less
sensitive and turning down the protective reactions. Even if we can not change your original tissue problem, we can
most definitely decrease the hypersensitivity of your nervous system.