seems crazy in theory I know, but I have seen it suggested on the web before.
here is an example from a bodybuilding website
forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=1625181
anyone any thoughts on this or ever used avodart?
Yea, I wouldn’t try it. The rise in libido is probably due to the initial upregulation of T that happens when the HTPA senses less DHT in the blood, so boosts T to compensate. Also, although Dutasteride and Finasteride inhibit 5AR, they do so in different ways, so this may also play a role.
But really, taking another anti-androgen (Dut) that reduces both types of 5AR (I and II) to recover from the effects of one that reduced type II just seems ridiculously dumb to me. But its your life and health, if you want to try it based on one anecdotal report by a single member of a bodybuilder forum, go right ahead… just don’t complain if you are worse off in the end.
yeah, now you’re on to something. This is a drug that affects everybody a little differently, and some people can recover a little easier than others, "this is a drug that affects your prostate, not everyone can recover as easily as others can when their systems are shocked, especially when its your prostate, and YOUR LIFE FORCE@!
Personally!, as a man, my prostate, my hard sensuous dick, and my sex drive are my life force, my emotional center.
I am that type personality.
(I bet a lot of us here are)
we all got shocked to our lower abdomens, not our stomachs, not really your bowels, not really your or my bladder, to me this didn’t start in my head, this is below my bladder, behind my dick, I don’t know about you, the only place the blood vessels that come to your dick come from, are we on to something??? What could it be, our prostates? Our prostates? Gee!!! I wonder!!!
Well, to me, we all got shocked, to our lower abdomen, none else than the only organ I could pin point at, for me at least, the only thing it could possibly be, the only organ, the only place, the only symptoms.
If you know anything about the human body, and can read, I think you’ll begin to find the same. Finasteride works on your prostate, and this is what is also the life force behind a man’s dick!! ANd pecker! Pecker head! Sorry, but I just have to call all you guys that.!
Sure, some of us may have hormones that are off now, but this is obviously a prostate issue for me, there’s no one cure for it either, part of what ancient, “traditional”, eastern ancient medicine is is treating each individual, sure there are common maladies and illnesses, and hence western medicine, more people, but treating the individual with each of their own sets of maladies, symptoms, and I say set because I mean set, combination, everything combined thats going on in each as an individuals body, we all have our own sets of problems, listen to your own body, noone’s gonna give you one set answer!
Like I said, there is no one cure for this, Hypo says
Yet who is the only doctor that has really even come close to healing anyone, and what has he done, only prescribed stuff we all already pretty much know about. He’s only a hero because he’s the only one that’ll only really listen to us, and who is nice enough to really try hard, and make moves, take chances, and prescribe these things FOR propecia, and care about Propecia, and think outside the box, are we on to something again here?, Dr. Shippen is only a hero because he is into to trying to trick hormones around, causing the body to act in certain ways, and again, mostly ways we all are already aware of, we all already know, lowered testosterone isn’t very good for sex drive, higher testosterone gives more of a pump, ask and observe any body builder! Like I said, there is no one cure for this, MEw says, you are waisting your time walking, hiking, when what, I could be surfing around online for ten hours a day, depressed, helpless, looking for answers, but really one specific answer thats not really there. Come on guys! This is not rocket science. There are no doctors on the internet that can give us an answer to our problems, like I said, there is no one cure for this, some of us have either suffered some prostate issues, some slight hormonal issues, or for some most likely a little of both, but come on guys!!! What part of your body, what organ works to be the life force of your body as a man!?? Are we on to something? Are any of you onto this??? Please tell me, before I go any further! (I’m sorry but I’m not gonna bother proofreading this. maybe someday I’ll become a little more fluid ont he keys and with my mind) but what I’m saying is the truth!
I’m sorry to be harsh, and I know its frustrating, but you gotta take chances, and take your own health into your own hands, A little TRT is not gonna really hurt any of you, millions are on that too, just like any medicine, a little prostate massage, a little herbs, a little whatever you can do! I know, I’m sorry guys, I know its tough, but its a lifestyle change, you gotta find a way for your body to be comfortable, so then it can heal, shoot, I’m kicking myself for not living in the bathtub for the two-three months I’ve sat around, walked for hours a day, instead of done nothing, depressed! I’m kicking myself for not have been taking regular walks, baths, whatever I can do to rid these symptoms, because the more I feel better, the closer I keep getting, I’m almost there.
And it doesn’t matter how long you took it for either!That has nothing to do with anything, you all can recover, you have to just start to be able to, and willing.
I really really can’t tell you how I’ve just experienced this Homeopathy today, I went to a well respected Homeopath today who I already have learned a lot from, it has a made a huge HUGE difference in the way I see (our) my problems now, it has made a huge difference in how I feel and think about this.
I will be seeing a Naturopath next!
I am nearly there, almost there.
I’m sorry guys, I’m sorry, I know this is a lot to stomach! But don’t just criticize! I know a lot of you feel helpless, but don’t.
Now read this, hopefully this has an impact on you.
"What is naturopathy?
Naturopathy, or naturopathic medicine, is a system of medicine based on the healing power of nature. Naturopathy is a holistic system, meaning that naturopathic doctors (N.D.s) strive to find the cause of disease by understanding the patient as a totality of body, mind, and spirit. Most N.D.s use a wide variety of therapies and techniques (such as nutrition, herbal medicine, homeopathy, and acupuncture).
There are two areas of focus in naturopathy: one is supporting the body’s own healing abilities, and the other is empowering individuals to make lifestyle changes necessary for the best possible health. While N.D.s treat both short bouts of illness and chronic conditions, their emphasis is on prevention of disease and patient education."
University of Maryland Medical Center, 2007, umm.edu/altmed/articles/natu … 000356.htm
Read the lifestyle changes portion of it.
Some of you may have to make some sacrifices if this is important to you enough!
Is this whole event not life changing??
Good luck Boston with whatever course of action you pursue. I hope it works out for ya! I just can’t handle the stream of consciousness type posts anymore, I’m sorry… you’re just too confusing for me. I need mroe than just opinions, I need concrete facts backed by studies. Anyway, best of luck with however you come to your recovery.
Cheers,
Mew.
I think what boston says makes a lot of sense even though I see he is critisized quite a bit around here but his upbeat attitude is the course of action everyone should be taking. The body wants to heal and not by giving it artificial hormones. The negative feedback loop and the HPTA is the thing that concerns me most. They all were working in synch before how does one go about getting them back in synch again? I dont think its just the pecker down there as boston mentioned although I wouldn’t discount that either. it has to be every organ including primarily the brain signaling the each organ to produce the hormones at optimal amount. Gene expression constantly changes througout ones lifetime and essentially gene expression needs to be changed again back to homeostasis to get rid of the symptoms we are having. IMO this is done through specific diet and supplements and lifestyle changes. And everything boston says is correct although I can be hypocritical as I write this by sitting around and being depressed but that certainly does not remedy the situation it only can make it worse.
STAY AWAY FROM AVODART! It’s 10x worse, I should know! It caused psychotic symptoms, vision is shit, skin changes, scrotum shriveled up, penile fibrosis, penile burning and COMPLETE (and most likely permanent) sexual dysfunction! Plus this shit has a 5 week half-life.