Anyone stuck in a terrible living/life situation with PFS?

General Discussion
#12

MartinM? Who are YOU to judge me? A very callus thing to say. Why put another member down, or by calling them out?
Has it occurred to you, that some here are REALLY, and not just making excuses, fucking stuck in miserable situations, on top of being sick? No concern of yours, but I don’t drink anymore. However, If you were here to step to me, and talk shit to my face with your negative reinforcement, I’d kick your stinkin’ ass to a pulp in person.
What have you done to help me, other than criticize me?

Complaining? You don’t even know my real story or situation, and the hell I’m stuck in, so how can you criticize me, or call me out? I hate bully scumbags like you.

Your statement has contributed absolutely NOTHING to this post, but only sheer negativity. Thank you.

#13

Not just my dick, its weaker muscles, stature, beard, face, voice, endurance at work, more fat, everything that made me a man has been stolen by 9 pills of FUCKING PROPECIA!!!. Feel like im back to pre teen age in some ways.

#14

Mine as well. It’s a nightmare still. Emotionally, I liken it to being poisoned, and your brain changes, and everyone around you rejects you, or becomes a ruthless criticizer. You see, my mother was diagnosed with terminal cancer, during the same time, that I became very ill from propecia. My father started to beat the shit out me, and abuse me emotionally. During my moms illness and my own. Every time I tried explaining my predicament, I was insulted and told to fuck off. I saw my mother die, and I had to pretend I was alright, even though I felt nothing and was extremely cognitively broken. I’ve been shunned by the rest of my family and friends. No real job prospects, and a very lonely sickly existence I lead. I am trying to move forward, but there are no simple solutions. I am completely destroyed. Emotionally battered, but seemingly paralyzed from all the abuse, and trauma, I’ve undergone. Not everyone here has gone through something as dramatic, or while ill. Some guys on here are ‘silver spooners’ and come from a wealthy family, or others have loving and supportive familys. One suicide victim on here was a millionaire, from what I’ve learned. Simply put, there should be some fund/outlet set up by the lawyers, or the foundation, to help us guys find supportive housing, or for those in completely ravaged/unbearable situations. I suppose I am crying out for help?! Imagine learning of one of our members homeless? How would that make you feel, if you could do something about it or help? I suggest the PFS foundation set up a housing fund, to help guys(in completely destroyed/terrible situations) get back on their feet.

#15

I’ve been through this charade you speak of. My mother died in an excruciatingly painful way. I pretended as hard as I could, and helped as much as I could, while she was bed ridden, unable to eat, with a tumor the size of a basketball.
Propecia robbed me of being ‘there’ during her last days on earth. I was also physically and emotionally abused by my father during this span of three years. I’m still stuck with an abusive father now. Hard to cope and plan an escape, while being so destroyed from all of this. I’m still trying to escape from a toxic situation, along with feeling toxic, heavy brain fog, and severe cognitive disability.

The PFS Foundation, and the lawyers, should step up, and help the less fortunate sufferers out. Fund housing to heal! Imagine PFS housing (set up by the foundation/lawyers) somewhere, for those with completely wrecked lives like mine? This would be great help for many! A place to heal and get ourselves back on our feet!

#16

This shit stole my mind! DEPRESSION MY ASS!!!

#17

Note to Kenneth C. Frazier:

See what ye hath wrought? Ye hath destroyed the lives of thousands of men – nay, Merck CUSTOMERS – the world over.

How you can look your wife Andrea in the eye each night before laying your head down to sleep is beyond comprehension.

You can only hope that God will have mercy on your soul when you stand in his presence on judgement day.

For there is no mercy for you here on earth.

#18

I would love to watch him slowly burned alive.

#19

Frazier will get his… he now has many, many enemies

#20

This Frazier guy sounds a bastard, but mainly for his conduct over the Vioxx scandal. As far as I am aware he inherited the Propecia problem rather than caused it. It would be pretty groundbreaking for a CEO to cease selling a profitable product on ethical grounds. The real villains of the piece are the guys who went about getting this onto the market in the first place for young men; deceivers like Keith Kaufman.

#21

Frazier let this go on … and on, and on and on … he did not try to stop it, and to this very day he attempts to bury it and say his drug is safe … Frazier has a huge role in this, and he will pay

#22

Might have to quit my landscaping job this week, i cant even do physical labor full time anymore. Even my old man has more stamina than i do these days. i guess i do have things to be thankful for, but these past several days have been the worst in a long time. Hoping tomorrow ill be in a better mood atleast

#23

you might actually improve as a result of not doing heavy physical labor … prior to using finasteride, excercise made me feel stronger and give me more energy etc., but now it absolutely floors me, it is fucking awful and i have to keep excercise very light and never anything intense

#24

Robertino, I’m not judging you, I’m simply holding a mirror up to your postings so you can realize that no one else except the manufacturer of the drug has a liability or responsibility to give you money and that requests for these two things from other PFS sufferers is ridiculous. We all have too much to worry about without supporting you too.

You previously looked for a way to find joint housing with other sufferers. There are warm areas in the country where the real estate rental market is very cheap, not to mention forclosed homes just sitting there empty. I don’t want you to be without a roof, which is why I’m suggesting you take action now instead of begging for a handout here and letting another year go by. Do a little research, buy a bus ticket or hitchhike, see if anyone else here is willing to join you.

#25

Robertino, I am familiar with your story and I’m sorry to hear your living situation is so bad. I am aware of other guys under similar circumstances. Have you applied for social services, disability, etc? Are you onboard with the lawsuits?

I also have the same experience with exercise as Lennon. Just too fatigued and the attempts make me worse off. Drives me crazy when people tell me I need to just go to the gym considering how much I loved going before PFS.

#26

“We all have too much to worry about without supporting you too.”

  • The all knowing, kind and sympathetic propecia illness czar, MartinM.

Supporting me? Nobodies asking for your financial support asshole. You are a real fuckin’ prick man. I think your a very mean, judgmental, malicious and evil person.

I’m happy to know, that there are nice and decent people on this forum, excluding Martin M.

#27

[quote=“martinM”]
Robertino, I’m not judging you, I’m simply holding a mirror up to your postings so you can realize that no one else except the manufacturer of the drug has a liability or responsibility to give you money and that requests for these two things from other PFS sufferers is ridiculous. We all have too much to worry about without supporting you too.

But, you ARE judging me. Why are you ALSO slandering me, and calling me out?
I never asked for money asshole from forum members.

Turdbag, I stand by what I’ve expressed, and that a PFS Foundation housing grant (i.e. sponsored co-op housing, community housing, funding, or some sort of program) would not be a bad thing for THOSE in more extreme conditions. This could be funded through the lawyers, others involved on the PFS board, or through other sources. This could be paid back after the lawsuit ends. A housing stipend or advance is not a bad idea for some sufferers on here. PFS, is still not technically a medically approved illness, therefore, it would be impossible to obtain disability coverage and housing. Some guys on here could benefit from such an idea. This is not asking for money from forum members ya’ dipshit turdball. Just an idea I threw out…

I guarantee you, that many on here would be interested in such an idea, and this idea, is not evil, but noble and good in nature…

#28

I quit today, on good terms. He knows i was having health problems. But yea, i just wear out and feel miserable. Not that good tired i used to feel after a long days work. Im starting at a restaurant monday. Id rather control my physical activity. (2-3 heavy lifting sessions per week.)

#29

i think you will find that you feel better not working a physical job anymore, and even some light weight lifting and a light walk would be better for you then heavy weight lifting, though this is just my opinion based on my own experience

bottom line, take it very easy on your body, and try to find work where you do not have to strain your body

i am sure leaving the job is a blessing in disguise as far as you feeling better in the near future

#30

Robertino, in case you haven’t read it, Awor just made a post requesting funding from members which goes to improving all of our situations:

viewtopic.php?f=33&t=6773&p=65016#p65016

If the foundation redirected money from research to do as you suggested, it would benefit you (or a few) at the cost of slowing research for everyone else. I have more practical suggestions for you if you’re willing/able to hear them and I think you haven’t fully explored boston332’s suggestions either. They are not easy but they are alternatives to the dire living situation you describe. Please hold the personal attacks, name calling, and threats of violence though.

Ditto.

#31

“If the foundation redirected money from research to do as you suggested, it would benefit you (or a few) at the cost of slowing research for everyone else.”

Again, your being passive aggressive, by passively(like a pussy) suggesting, that it’s about ‘me’ or a small minority, that doesn’t at all relate to you sir. Are you sure your not a corporate lobbyist for the republican party? The proposed funding could come from other sources as well. Have you ever heard of grant writing? Oddly enough, we can possibly obtain a federal grant to achieve this. The lawyers involved, could also establish a cash advancement, for housing in the legal contract. Again, this is YOUR opinion only. I completely disagree with you.

“I have more practical suggestions for you if you’re willing/able to hear them and I think you haven’t fully explored boston332’s suggestions either. They are not easy but they are alternatives to the dire living situation you describe. Please hold the personal attacks, name calling, and threats of violence though.”

“I have more practical suggestions for you if you’re willing/able to hear them and I think you haven’t fully explored boston332’s suggestions either.”

What don’t you understand? Again, some people are COMPLETELY stuck in their wretched circumstances. Many brain fogged men are completely stuck. I mean “wretched” and borderline homeless. What don’t you understand? An insensitive and cold person like you deserves all the name calling in the book and more. Sorry, but I don’t deal with passive aggressive ‘know at all’s’ too well. You started this, by calling me out, and trying to belittle me with your comments. Passive aggression at it’s finest. Why criticize, and try to silence, and belittle forum members? You should work for Merck.