Since we have been sufferring from this disease in varying degrees for many years in some cases, and it appears as time has passed in both forums that the more we know the worse the problem appears, can we devote this thread to hopes or ideas as to how we might overcome in it future years?
I can’t really think of anything except that maybe the Irwig study will alert the worlds of medicine and science to this problem.
Another thing to make you all hopeful is that the fact that we have all had really good days really proves that full recovery is possible.
everyone has had really good days really?
yup,same here I have normal days and some bad ones.Seems like my normal days are happening more frequently lately.
Same, but it constantly feels like 1 step forward 2 steps back. I’m scared to go to University because of the occurence of ‘bad days’.
you guys are lucky then… my side effects have been relatively chronic for the most part
I also have more good days than bad as time goes on. The existance of “good days” points twords a hormonal imbalance rather than organ damage. In other words: if FIN had wrecked any of our glands or organs…then none of us would be having these good days.
I would be glad to post a reply to this thread. Hope is what helps us to endure, and all too often it seems this drug seeks to deprive us of that. But I have learned some very valuable lessons from this experience and perhaps I can share them with you.
A few months ago one of my friends mentioned something to me that got me thinking. We were discussing identity, and what really makes a person who they are. He finally came to this conclusion; our identity is determined not by how we view ourselves, but by how other people view us. In other words, in our eyes we may feel we are wasting away as a man, but others may see our endurance and come to have a new found respect for us. I’ll say it one more time: Our manhood is not determined by ourselves, it is other people who determine how much of a man we are.
No one else except the doctor and God is aware what I am going through. They know I am not feeling well and that is it. It is easy to let your confidence get shot down but I see no need for it. The most amazing thing that has happened to me is the fact that since I started getting sick my popularity level has increased. I am NOT joking, I have pictures to prove how popular I am with the ladies (the girls actually ask me out on dates). I don’t mean to brag. What I am trying to say is that these women have no doubt in my manhood. What’s more amazing, and something I really appreciate, is when I tell these girls I am sick instead of being turned away they actually want to help me. It’s very touching, and I am grateful to have a handful of beautiful friends who are willing to take care of me and couldn’t care less about my illness. What is my secret? I have learned that when you are a true friend to others, they will be true friends to you. Care about others, and they will care for you. Women especially appreciate the care a man shows to them.
Sometimes we are our own worst enemies. Some people have an unbalanced view of sex and subsequently think their life is over when things like this happen to them. Our lives are definitely not over. Sex is just a part of life, not the whole. Despite my suffering, I have had some of the greatest adventures (like joining a search and rescue team on a journey through a jungle in a foreign country), and I can’t wait to see what tomorrow will bring. Guys, don’t let this disable us. Learn something new everyday. You are capable of more than you think. Take a vacation, see the great outdoors, learn to laugh, have an adventure! Experience life to the full.
I’ll give you an example of a man who just doesn’t quit: Zach Anner.
youtube.com/watch?v=sQAG_xOmwXI
He has cerebral palsy and still manages to look at the bright side of things. He has been able to meet celebrities not because they pity him, but because he has a star quality most stars lack: a down-to-earth attitude and a genuine sense of humor. Let’s not disable ourselves or let this illness conquer us. Real men don’t quit.
I’ll leave you with this thought from a scholar:
“Endurance is the capacity to hold out or bear up in the face of difficulty…It is the quality which keeps a man on his feet with his face to the wind.”
Yes, a MAN stands with his face to the wind. Let’s prove to the world how much of a man we really are.
Here is another positive thing about this thread
This sickness has caused us to reevaluate our priorities in life.
No longer is hair the be all end all, now we realize that health is far more important than hair. This sickness has taught me a valuable lesson in life.
amen to that
I have gained a lot of self confidence from having aquired this disease (as moronic as that sounds). This ordeal has made me realize just how unconfident I was before and how stupid I was for worrying about things that were extemely insignificant (not just hair, but everything in general). Also, I feel that if I have survived my crash along with a ton of personal and professional challenges which happened during this ordeal the past few months, that I can now get through anything in life. And not to sound cliche but to live everyday to its fullest especially now that we have opened ourselves up to who knows what type of long term health ramifications.
I’ve also learned that money is BS
What would you guys rather have, your health back or a million dollars?
For me it’s a no brainer, of course give me my heath and screw the money.
I’m embarrassed and ashamed to admit that ten years ago I would have taken the money over my health.
Now I know better
If I ever recover I’m going to come out of this as a much better person.
ive also been learning alot like: ACCEPTANCE
if you cant enjoy it at least accept it… its much easier than resistance…
as for the future, im no doctor but i really do think there will be a pill or injections or wtv that will make our bodies/hormones function more as they did before
There is never going to be anything specified for propecia damage, personally I think with more people experimenting with post cycle regimes, HPTA restarts, HCG, Testosterone, drugs like GHB and Valium, we will just find the things that work best. Hopefully I don’t have to try anything serious like that, GHB is something I am considering because it sounds nice anyway.
For some reason I felt like crap the first 3 months after quitting with terrible ups and downs and finally after the third month it’s like my body was just taking off. I thought I’d feel like that forever. I was on that crap for 8-10 months with different amounts between 1-5mg.
All the sudden on 4 months I’d say I’m at 80% recovery and I feel it’s still getting better every night.
I think it mostly has to do with getting enough REM sleep, your body doesn’t heal quite right without it.