Am I "crashing"?

Yesterday I had an appointment with a senior endocrinologist. He is a worldwide known american professor, made his m.d at the US back in the seventies, and also took part in trials for big pharmaceutical companies (like novartis).

I told him the whole story and gave him my blood tests results. I’d like to mention that I took another prolactin test and waited 4.5 hours after waking up - result is within normal range - 209 mlU/L (54-380). That leaves me, besides low vit-D, with “only” low free T (for now) and some not really great T (I guess).

Although he said he would never recommend to anyone, under any circumstances, to take propecia, he doesn’t really believe that fin is that destructive after quitting. He said he knows about the FDA warning, and read material about PFS, but he thinks that things “just don’t work this way”. Anyway, he doesn’t deny completely that there are some possible effects, but as for my situation, he thinks the same as Mew, that since the symptoms occurred relatively a long time after quitting could point that the problem could be found elsewhere.

He says that for now, nothing indicates a clear hormonal issue. LH, TSH, prolactin, Estradiol… all seem pretty good. Even my low free T hew says, is not necessarily low; we don’t know what was my pre fin condition (YOUR OPINIONS ON MY LOW FREE T, PLEASE). He also wants this to be double checked. And in any case, my low weight he says, can also “fool” free T results, since SHBG will always seems to be higher in slim men by mistake or something (didn’t completely understood, something about low fat… blah).

Again, same as Mew mentioned, the main thing that might point at some non fin related problem is my high FSH. He thinks that it has something to do with my 4th degree of Varicocele or some other problem with my testicles. Personally, I don’t really believe it’s true, since low T and varicocele are linked but had never proven. Anyway, he asked me to pay a visit to urologist and to take a fertility test. If the result won’t be ok, then to his opinion, resolving this matter might affect positively on any possible T problem.

And of course, that’s not enough. He also wants extra bloodwork, including DHT, SHBG and lots of other endo crap.

If the problem is not testicular nor will be found in other blood results, he says he might (“maybe maybe maybe”) consider short period of T injections OR Clomid to see if I respond well to extra T. Neither of us wants to go there.

Please, please respond.

I had some extra bloodwork two weeks ago.
I couldn’t get SHBG and DHT tests; nobody at my public health service (can’t really translate it) have no idea how to test them. I need to take these tests in a private lab or something.

Anyway, I should have taken the tests two hours after waking up, but I took them only 1:45 hours approximately after waking up, so I don’t know if that’s the cause for the crazy results I got:

Elevated progesterone:

  • Progesterone 3.99 nmol/L (0.89-3.88)
  • 17 OH-Progesterone 25.64 nmol/L (1.81-10.3)

Elevated LH, high FSH:

  • FSH 17.5 mIU/mL (1.4-18.1)
  • LH 10.14 mIU/mL (1.5-9.3) *** is that related to 40mg daily zinc I’m supplementing since the last bloodwork?

Good total T but low Free T:

  • Testosterone 24.37 nmol/L (8.4-28.7)
  • Free Testosterone 51.49 pmol/L (31-142) *** I don’t know about the other results, but since two tests show low free T I’m beginning to suspect that the problem might be here. I haven’t taken SHBG test yet, but it seems strange since I have low estradiol so I don’t know what exactly causes it.

Normal Values:

  • Cortisol 392.0 nmol/L (138-690)
  • Dhea-SO4 7.0 umol/L (2.17-15.2)
  • Androstenedione 2.30 ng/mL (0.3-2.63)
  • TSH 1.11 mIU/L (0.55-4.78)
  • Free T4 12.89 pmol/L (11.5-22.7)
  • Prolactin 203.1 mIU/L (45-375)

I tried to lower stress in the last few weeks. I can get it up with massive stimulation, but erection’s strength is far from perfect. Testicles are atrophic (and so said the endo, although he said “slight testicular atrophy” - doesn’t seems slight to me). Testes also hang very low (might be related to varicocele), although sometimes (relatively rare) they feel almost fine. Still low to zero sex-drive (I usually force myself to have sex or jack every two or three days). Generally I feel like shit, tired all the time and sleep a lot. I’ll spare you details about how I lost two jobs within two months. But I try to think about the good things: less anxious, orgasms are OK, generally sex is still kindda fun - even had two orgasms with a very small time gap between them last week. I have also read that some people here feel like shit after orgasms, so I’m happy that I don’t experience things like that.

I also took a fertility test and found out that I have absolutely zero percent of fertile semen, which related to my 4 grade varicocele. So the docs want me to fix it by surgery.
Varicocele surgeries are related with SOME post T elevation (you can guess who ordered these kind of trials), but the connection between varicocele and low T have never been proven. My urologist says not to get optimistic with that matter.

Anyway, again, I would appreciate thoughts and opinions.

Wow another one with elevated progesterone. Does everyone have highish progesterone?