Thanks God I did not start this thread, nevertheless I wanted to do it a few times…
what do you mean gotta?
There is a number of common symptoms associated with that disease. Alcohol is the one. I did not write about this phenomenon expecting others to come up with this one day. Unfortunetely I did not have to wait to long for that. Very good.
If we already opened the Pandora’s box of the associated issues I wonder what do you have to say about your sexual preferences right not…
Are you looking for more of perversion in the sexual acts or movies… ?? Do you need a stronger sexual impulsion to get your sens of excitement?
You know the famous photographer name Helmut Newton. There is a specific time frame when he established his photo style that he is famous for. It was right after his heart attact in 1971.
Since then most of his photos became fullfilled with perversion… what actually made him famous.
Cardiac disease which start with palpitations and finish with stroke is propably a consequence of the the same etiology…
Any interesting comments?
What? Your post makes absolutely no sense.
Furthermore, trying to state that C. Pneumoniae is the de facto, root cause of everyone’s problems, as if it were fact, is also a bad move.
It seems that no matter what the topic, you always try and swing it around to your latest “c pneumonia” theory which as far as I’m concerned, holds no water. Especially considering your previous “theories” included candida and other such nonsense.
I would tread lightly around here if I were you… many people are not interested in entertaining such delusions.
Well said.
Mew, I would like to agree with you in everything you say, especially because of your huge effort in organizing this page.
The problem is that you are not cured, more… medical community has nothing, absolutely nothing to tell you… you really seem that you do not listen to them, even when they are trying to tell you there is no point in investigating it further. If you are featured with the great belief in the mainstream medicine and the medical community standing behind it, why… why you do not listen to them in the first place…?
Mainstream medicine tells you that you should stop investigating because it is not finasteride causing this. This is what has to tell you the mainstream doctors and medicine. But what you do then… you present a mainstream medicine studies, that already told you to stop investigating this “non-existing” for the mainstream medicine problem.
How can you support the mainstream medicine if it already rejected your point of view. How can it be reliable for you if it already answered you “no”. What do you expect to find, if there is nothing, absolutely nothing that can support the idea of finasteride permanent side effects. It is a non existent thread in the medical literature, so what is the point…
On the other hand I present you the subject which is becoming the most emmerging phenomenon within 21 century. I present you the real hypothesis confirmed by increasing number of victims that suffer and are stuck in a permanent fatigue. They already discovered what is the source of this fatigue, mainly due to the forward thinking doctors that became sick and established protocols to cure themselfs from that misurable condition.
Mew. Do you believe in progress(?) or you think that the mainstream medicine is anything that you can look up to? How can you avoid to think forward if you were rejected by every mainstream doctor?
PS: Candida? I explained that candida is closely related to chronic pneumoniae due to the long term immune downregulation. Every knowledgeble non-mainstream doctor will explain you this, but the problem is you are not looking for a one.
Finally. It is not a delusion.
gotta, i would ask you a thing;
all of this can be caused only by this c pneumonia bacteria or can be also another type of bacteria that out body is dealing with?
thanks
According to my doctor, and as I confirmed it further on a ch pn forum there are two types of bacteria which may act like this. These are chlamydia pneumoniae, mycoplasma pneumoniae.
They settle within cells and turn them into the disfunctional state.
The third bacteria that has an ability to disturb the cellular functions is Borelia (Lyme), but I have no doubt we are not talking about a syndrom associated with Lyme here.
There are so many bacteria out there, are you sure it can only be these two types?
If you are personaly interested in finding new types of bacteria you can do that.
As I am not interested in doing this I cannot help you. I do believe in the protocol that I follow.
Why not open a poll to see how many here are tested and have, chlamydia pneumoniae, cytoplasma?
Its simple to test i think right?
Very simple, indeed but requires money anyway.
I wasn’t talking about undiscovered types, but known types. For example, here’s an excerpt I got off a link from that Cpnhelp website:
Who’s to say our supposed infections don’t vary among these CFS-inducing pathogens rather than strictly Chlamydia pneumoniae?
Also, can you please explain better how you think this would develop in our bodies in the first place? Thanks.
Treatment protocols are specificaly designed to destroy the co-infection factors that may also be in play mainly due to the immune system damage caused by chlamydia pneumoniae.
I honestly don’t understand your second question because you may obviously get infected without any extra drug, steroid influence. The point is that finasteride and majority of steroids propably can make it much easier due to the immune supression it builds.
More. My doctor (amazing guy anyway) has 1000 patients now. He manages 30-40 consultations per day. Majority of his patients did not touch anything steroid like, but are in exactly the same condition that I am. Many other developed multiple sclerosis due to it. He cures them and is only one out of the 3 other doctors familiar with this condition in Poland.
We both think that the infection itself together with immunesupressive foods, especially those contaminated with GMO may be a big factor in chronic chlamydia pneumoniae and further neurodegenerative multiple sclerosis development.
Have you recently heard of the increasing number of athletes getting MS and worse the SLA. This is not a mistery these people often use steroids in a propecia-like manner…
This is completely “off topic”
I feel really sorry that it is “off topic” for you.
Don’t feel sorry.
It’s not off topic “for me.” It’s just simply off topic.
Alcohol increases testosterone. It rises after thinking, thats is why you get so horny. The day after thinking i feel amazing until that night where im just plain tired. Lower testosterone we get brain fog.
I believe it has to do with the increased Testosterone in the body.
Thats how we should be.
I’ve noticed it makes me more horny. Why? Because when I’m intoxicated it causes me to be super un-inhibited and I just… WANT TO BE WITH SOMEONE. Ya know? The whole reason behind “drunk dialing”.
Nevertheless, there’s a term in the USA we use for the condition of your penis while inebriated, and that is “Whiskey dick.”
Like mew was saying, it decreases the amount of free T in the body, and depletes heavy amounts of Vitamin B, Zinc and Water. Drinking more water allows for more semen production, as it is the complimentary solution that your seminal fluids rest in–so dehydration affects this. Zinc, obviously is very important for reproductive functioning. And Vitamin B… Provides energy throughout the body and it’s a contributing factor in becoming lethargic the next day.
As a recovering propecia-guy, I can safely say that drinking alcohol will worsen the problems. In fact, the majority of college students, 9/10 will most likely say that having sex while drunk is like beating a horse with a tooth pick–ya just won’t see any pleasurable results.
Granted, each body is different, but overall, I’d say… No to alk.
Again, you missed the point completely. I’m not saying I’m horny while I’m drunk, I’m not. It’s the day AFTER. Learn to read.