Alcohol and libido

No it is not hormonal. Alcohol prevents inflammation. You get “better” while you drink. It reduce inflammation caused by pneumoniae. The greatest temporary improvement comes with vodka. This improvement persist while you drink and some hours after only to make you feel worse when the alcohol bioavailability comes to zero.

Drinking alcohol is not something that will cure you but a very popular way of getting through this disease among unaware pneumoniae sufferers.

Why some of you still resist to acknowledge that this is strictly bacterial… the answer remains to me still unclear.

Because the evidence is not available that this infection is the cause of our symptoms, so it’s all theory and conjecture until you go to the doctor and he tells you. From what I understand some have even done just that and have tested negative, so what then?

I think a good amount of people here do listen to you and consider this, but until we get diagnosed with it, most will focus on the symptoms rather than an outlandish reason for it.

I hope people get these tests, i really hope… I tested this alcohol issue numerous times, which is also a great approach for the correct understanding of this condition.

Did not mention alcohol phenomenon to prevent myself from being accused of insanity or something again.

I am glad you identified this condition by yourself.

i also experienced the alcohol effects many times

Thanks God I did not start this thread, nevertheless I wanted to do it a few times…

what do you mean gotta?

There is a number of common symptoms associated with that disease. Alcohol is the one. I did not write about this phenomenon expecting others to come up with this one day. Unfortunetely I did not have to wait to long for that. Very good.

If we already opened the Pandora’s box of the associated issues I wonder what do you have to say about your sexual preferences right not…

Are you looking for more of perversion in the sexual acts or movies… ?? Do you need a stronger sexual impulsion to get your sens of excitement?

You know the famous photographer name Helmut Newton. There is a specific time frame when he established his photo style that he is famous for. It was right after his heart attact in 1971.

Since then most of his photos became fullfilled with perversion… what actually made him famous.

Cardiac disease which start with palpitations and finish with stroke is propably a consequence of the the same etiology…

Any interesting comments?

What? Your post makes absolutely no sense.

Furthermore, trying to state that C. Pneumoniae is the de facto, root cause of everyone’s problems, as if it were fact, is also a bad move.

It seems that no matter what the topic, you always try and swing it around to your latest “c pneumonia” theory which as far as I’m concerned, holds no water. Especially considering your previous “theories” included candida and other such nonsense.

I would tread lightly around here if I were you… many people are not interested in entertaining such delusions.

Well said.

Mew, I would like to agree with you in everything you say, especially because of your huge effort in organizing this page.

The problem is that you are not cured, more… medical community has nothing, absolutely nothing to tell you… you really seem that you do not listen to them, even when they are trying to tell you there is no point in investigating it further. If you are featured with the great belief in the mainstream medicine and the medical community standing behind it, why… why you do not listen to them in the first place…?

Mainstream medicine tells you that you should stop investigating because it is not finasteride causing this. This is what has to tell you the mainstream doctors and medicine. But what you do then… you present a mainstream medicine studies, that already told you to stop investigating this “non-existing” for the mainstream medicine problem.

How can you support the mainstream medicine if it already rejected your point of view. How can it be reliable for you if it already answered you “no”. What do you expect to find, if there is nothing, absolutely nothing that can support the idea of finasteride permanent side effects. It is a non existent thread in the medical literature, so what is the point…

On the other hand I present you the subject which is becoming the most emmerging phenomenon within 21 century. I present you the real hypothesis confirmed by increasing number of victims that suffer and are stuck in a permanent fatigue. They already discovered what is the source of this fatigue, mainly due to the forward thinking doctors that became sick and established protocols to cure themselfs from that misurable condition.

Mew. Do you believe in progress(?) or you think that the mainstream medicine is anything that you can look up to? How can you avoid to think forward if you were rejected by every mainstream doctor?

PS: Candida? I explained that candida is closely related to chronic pneumoniae due to the long term immune downregulation. Every knowledgeble non-mainstream doctor will explain you this, but the problem is you are not looking for a one.

Finally. It is not a delusion.

gotta, i would ask you a thing;
all of this can be caused only by this c pneumonia bacteria or can be also another type of bacteria that out body is dealing with?

thanks

According to my doctor, and as I confirmed it further on a ch pn forum there are two types of bacteria which may act like this. These are chlamydia pneumoniae, mycoplasma pneumoniae.
They settle within cells and turn them into the disfunctional state.

The third bacteria that has an ability to disturb the cellular functions is Borelia (Lyme), but I have no doubt we are not talking about a syndrom associated with Lyme here.

There are so many bacteria out there, are you sure it can only be these two types?

If you are personaly interested in finding new types of bacteria you can do that.
As I am not interested in doing this I cannot help you. I do believe in the protocol that I follow.

Why not open a poll to see how many here are tested and have, chlamydia pneumoniae, cytoplasma?

Its simple to test i think right?

Very simple, indeed but requires money anyway.

I wasn’t talking about undiscovered types, but known types. For example, here’s an excerpt I got off a link from that Cpnhelp website:

Who’s to say our supposed infections don’t vary among these CFS-inducing pathogens rather than strictly Chlamydia pneumoniae?

Also, can you please explain better how you think this would develop in our bodies in the first place? Thanks.

Treatment protocols are specificaly designed to destroy the co-infection factors that may also be in play mainly due to the immune system damage caused by chlamydia pneumoniae.

I honestly don’t understand your second question because you may obviously get infected without any extra drug, steroid influence. The point is that finasteride and majority of steroids propably can make it much easier due to the immune supression it builds.

More. My doctor (amazing guy anyway) has 1000 patients now. He manages 30-40 consultations per day. Majority of his patients did not touch anything steroid like, but are in exactly the same condition that I am. Many other developed multiple sclerosis due to it. He cures them and is only one out of the 3 other doctors familiar with this condition in Poland.

We both think that the infection itself together with immunesupressive foods, especially those contaminated with GMO may be a big factor in chronic chlamydia pneumoniae and further neurodegenerative multiple sclerosis development.

Have you recently heard of the increasing number of athletes getting MS and worse the SLA. This is not a mistery these people often use steroids in a propecia-like manner…

This is completely “off topic”

I feel really sorry that it is “off topic” for you.