After fasting zinc actually works for me now

General Discussion
#1

I’ve been taking it for over two weeks now and I am still experiencing the benefits. (My erections stay up longer, are harder, and I have fantastic morning wood.) Intuitively I feel like I won’t experience the honeymoon effect, although I guess we will see what happens. Anyways, the point is, after fasting for two weeks nearly 10 months ago, my body actually reacts to supplements now. I feel like maybe one way to heal PFS is to first go on a fast (this is to resensitize your body to supplements) and then afterwards supplement with various stuff. I’ve been using vitamin D and zinc and I am pleased with the results. Also I seem to recall that PFS is somehow related to zinc deficiency/too much copper? Anyways, I theorize that until you fast and cleanse your body, your body is unable to absorb various vitamin and mineral deficiencies via supplementation, only by fasting can you subsequently correct your balance with supplements. For me anyways, I’m going to continue to supplement with zinc indefinitely until I no longer experience benefits, this is because I suspect I may have too much copper as a result of PFS. Part of me feels like maybe, just maybe I can cure myself with zinc eventually. *fingers crossed

I am taking 150 mg of zinc daily. I used to take only 100mg but I decided to up the dosage to see if I could get better/faster results that way.

#2

~200mg/day is good for periods of sickness, but anything too high for an extended period of time will induce some weird peripheral neuropathy (something like that, idk) and otherwise cause a mineral imbalance. Zinc is awesome, believe me, but I’d take breaks/cycle it.

#3

I’m working on the assumption that I am zinc deficient and have too much copper due to PFS, also I need to continue taking zinc as long as possible in order to gauge my limits and see exactly how much I can take before getting negative side effects. Remember, our bodies are no longer normal due to PFS, so its necessary to see how our PFS bodies work, instead of assuming that what affects normal people will also affect us in the same way. Its entirely possible that PFS is caused by zinc deficiency/too much copper, and the inability of the body to absorb zinc/regulate copper. If that is the case then by all means it would make sense to supplement zinc as much as possible and see how much zinc the body can take before it will presumably regulate itself again. (A long shot I know, but its not like we have any other options.)

#4

No doubt man, right there with ya. Just offering a friendly word of caution.

I’m pretty sure PFS has a lot more to do with zinc deficiency, though it could certainly incorporate it. PFS likely wasn’t caused by too little zinc, but if it has anything to do with it, PFS caused it, not the other way around. Because of this, extensive zinc supplementation may improve symptomatology (and will probably help), but it won’t cure anyone. I fasted for three weeks and then took a lot of zinc on a daily basis for an extended period of time.

Best of luck.

#5

did you experience any benefits from zinc?

#6

I’ve posted this before but will post it again. A woman in Denver lost the use of her legs due to too much zinc in her dental adhesive. Be careful as too much can be really bad for you.

denverpost.com/news/ci_14451649

#7

Be on the look out of your symptons - very soon after initial crash, I took 70mg or something zinc in different forms, mostly picolinate. At some point, I increased accidentally to closer to 100mg and I started to get weird symptons, almost like hypoglycemia-like symptons. Most notably, I had hypoglycemia but I lost my appetite COMPLETELY, feeling that even the food in my mouth felt disgusting (perhaps in texture? It’s been awhile and it’s written somewhere in my first posts).

Basically I got really sick from zinc picolinate so just remember to experiment + be careful with the dosage. Zinc acts as an mild aromatose inhibitor as well, which should be a concern, dunno if it’s dose-depending (=more inhibition with increased dose). I don’t know if there’s any substance is good for you when taken in big doses, even big dose flushing niacin (eg. with methylation) or single B-vitamins have bad flack with certain theories. Not to be an alarmist with this but in general remember to double-suspect the supplements you take all the time.

#8

after a few 24-34hours water fast i´m feeling very good. I´m taking ZMA again and it´s working now.

All this years zinc drys even more my skin, but not after fast.

i don´t think the problem is zinc absorption, i think it´s a autoimune disease. But, i agree with you: after fast, supplements works better.

#9

well, I guess everyone’s body reacts differently to things. For me, before I went on the fast, zinc didn’t have any effect on me. Either positive or negative. Now, after going on the fast zinc has had positive effects on me.

So anyways, after I made this thread I actually stopped getting morning wood for a few days. So I figured it had to do with the zinc, maybe I was taking too much. So I decided to stop taking zinc, sure enough after a few days I started getting morning wood again. I dont know whether or not it was related to the zinc or not. Anyways after that happened I decided to not take zinc for a few weeks. Here’s the interesting part, after going off the zinc I gradually started getting fairly strong odor from my armpits. Keep in mind that after I took propecia, I stopped getting armpit odor. So yeah, I am actually pretty happy to be able to smell odor coming from my armpits again. It makes me feel like a man.

I have a theory for why this is happening. Basically I think that zinc temporarily inhibits DHT, so when you decide to stop taking zinc, the body starts producing DHT again, but naturally it doesn’t know exactly how much DHT it was producing before so it approximates an amount/upregulates DHT production a little bit higher than it was before. Thus that is why my armpit odor has returned. (I’m pretty sure armpit odor/body odor is related to DHT)

Anyways, my morning wood started to suffer again a few days ago, so I decided to start taking zinc again, 100 mg a day. And surprisingly, I am getting excellent morning wood again. What this tells me is that while I DO experience a honeymoon effect from zinc, if i take a week or two off of it, then my body “resets”, so afterwards if I start taking zinc again I can once again feel the benefits. In other words, my body functions like a normal persons body should. This is unlike what my body used to be like, where after the honeymoon period ended I could never feel benefits from the supplement again. So I’m pretty excited about that.

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