a crazy idea

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#1

Hi All,

I am new to this forum so i willstart with my side effects and progress made to date.

I been on procepia for 11 months, then stopped whilst me and my wife tried for a baby. Didnt take for 1 year and then started again for 7 months.

When i first stoppped i dont remember any of these side effects but having stopped a second time i have many symptoms.

  1. Loss of sex drive
  2. Total loss of sensativity in penis and scrotum
  3. very tight scrotum, so tight it actually hurts in the morning, but loosens through the day
  4. brain fog
  5. major depression and anxiety
  6. ED

I have been off for almost 2 months (so still early days) but so far i have defo crashed. Having come off for the first 10-20 days everything was fine then the crash.

I am currently taken zinc, eating raw cawliflower, getting as much fruit and veg as possible, taking vitamin c and just started omega.

Does anyone have any advice for me?

Also i have this crazzy idea that what might happen if i go back on procepia. Has anyone tried this. It seems for most the stmptoms are worse having come off. gentically there cannot be an issue because the first time i stopped i didnt crash. It must be liked to other things maybe i was stressed, on other medication or soemthing.

#2

Yes it is crazy, others have thought and tried same and ended up with same side effects as before or much worse.

viewtopic.php?f=32&t=3685

If you plan to take drug again, do not bother posting here.

If you want to convince yourself otherwise, great. Not sure why you would bother posting here if that’s the case. Most guys KNOW their issues are from Finasteride, the difference is night and day before/while on/after using the medication.

If you aren’t even sure, probably best to look elsewhere.

#3

The point i was making was why did i crash the 2nd time of coming of procepia and not the first time. I was suggesting that factors in my life on the second time maybe stress or diet etc might have been the cause.

My other thaught was going back on procepia and coming off again in an attempt to fool my body and hopefully this time not crash. It was only an idea. I thaught that was the purpose of this forum.

#4

I wonder about this too as I stopped the drug previously without problems.

Rather than go back on propecia, which is pointless as the damage has been done, maybe consider a post cycle therapy like the bodybuilders do after a cycle to boost testosterone/reduce estrogen. You are not long off so it could help.

#5

Thanks for the reply luckfax

Could i ask what post cycle therapy is and whats involved. Also a question to yourself and MEW who seems to be a long term suffer - have you seen any improvments at all as time goes by?

My main concern at the moment is the numbness. I hope this gets better over time. The depression/anxiety is also bad but i have lived with that for 2 years anyway.

#6

Basically to boost your own testosterone levels use a protocol employing taking clomid/nolvadex and hcg for a while which will also block estrogen. This is second nature to bodybuilders who knnow about hormones but intimidating to us guys who just took a pill for hairloss and don’t know anything about all this stuff. That’s why no one does it in the early days after stopping when it’s probably most required.

Here’s some links about it:
steroidea.com/index.php/Anab … y-pct.html
fitnessuncovered.co.uk/post- … herapy.php

You have definitely crashed by the sound of things so worth consideration.

#7

Well its now 22nd of november and my symtoms have worsened. THe doctors have said they can do nothing for me so i paid to go private. THey too said they can do nothing as they dont know what is wrong. So i guess i have to fix this myself.

I am going to try to restart system using:

Day 1 Clomid 250mg + Nolvadex 60mg
Following 10 days Clomid 100mg + Nolvadex 40mg
Following 10 days Clomid 50mg + Nolvadex 20mg

This is from the link above.

Is it legal and safe to buy Clomid and Nolvadex online and if so where to? I have no chance of getting this from my dr.

Failing this i think i will go back onto fin to see if symptoms change and then come off again. also interested to see if i get the 10 days or so of normality before maybe anyother crash after coming back off.

#8

What you need to do is find a doctor who knows what they’re doing. You’re liable to make yourself worse by experimenting with more drugs. Look in the doctors section and see if there’s one close to you.

p.s. Taking fin again won’t make you better.

#9

Go to a gastro intestine man, he found something wrong with me straight away, endos didnt want a bar of me for the same reason as you “nothing is wrong with you”.

#10

Day 1 Clomid 250mg + Nolvadex 60mg
Following 10 days Clomid 100mg + Nolvadex 40mg
Following 10 days Clomid 50mg + Nolvadex 20mg

I am sure nothing will work. Many people has taken this route only to find failure. It looks like it is autoimmune disorder viewtopic.php?f=29&t=2170&hilit=autoimmune.

I visited Lasvegas Dec, 2009 to see few doctors and spent good amount money there. The outcome was nothing. One doctor told me it is autoimmune disorder. interestingly I found above link later on. Maybe this is the reason some chaps here reported good effects, especially for brain fog, after using some anti infilimmatory meds.

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