3-week 100% recovery with tamoxifen, crashed again, now 50% recovered

[esermon]

@salwah

@notcrashedyet

The fact that you had to take tamoxifen to get that bouncy chirpy active creative feeling tells me that you needed some external stimulus to get rid of the low levels(or unbalance) of some particular hormone. (DHT, estradiol or watever). I had a same feeling with me exactly 11 days after quitting finasteride. In your case the crash had come after some time of quitting. For me it came the next day of quitting. I never too tamoxifen or any other medicine, but kept on taking multivitamins (though irregularly). You might have needed that external stimulus to get to that mental/ physical state. While I didnt, and it came naturally from normal body response. I believe after taking one dose of tamoxifen even if you would have stopped it, you still would have been in a similar position. I also think I am kinda 60-70 percent recovered from my crash, after thinking almost 100% for a period of 3 weeks. After that even though I did not crash, the erections went down again to like 80% though other symptoms did not recover. I do feel low on libido for a whole day or two if I have too much sex at a stretch (masturbate 2 times and intercourse 4 times after drinking like 2 pegs… I believe that is too much for my body right now.) I still think I am in a recovery mode and things will get better with time. I have set my sight on 2 months and then the 6 months mark to see what are the possible options. Post finasteride I havent taken any drug to cause any issue with the endocrine system. And except the sexual sides where they are like 80%, most of other sides have gone away. Also when I say 80% erection, it means either by kissing, playing with girlfriend or when she is not there then slight manual assistance but not random, spontaneous arousal. I wish that we could stay in that “recovered period” for always.

ahahah you talk like you have been having pfs for 10 years, then i read you quitted 1 month and a half ago. You have nothing and cases like yours make doctors not believe us.

[AntonioBR]

Ok, this was expectable. Tamoxifen worked in the begging because it has the property of raising lh and fsh levels, therefore increasing testosterone. Problem is, it also increases estrogen, so once you stop tanking the estrogen levels are still high, while the testosterone no longer has the stimulation to stay high. The high estrogen makes the testosterone lower again, also reducing the activity of the thyreoid. You should check your thyreoid and your estradiol levels to see whats up

[Cooper]

So what should we do for a proper use of these drugs? Should we use an estrogen blocker with tamoxifen? Or maybe a Proviron+ estrogen blocker?
Would hormones go worse after quitting the usage? If you over activate something in your body the activation lessens from the base line after quitting the stimuli. Thats the principle of nature itself. But i don’t know… some people had sustainable, clean recoveries after DHT usage or something…